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I starved my first two years making less than flipping burgers, making 40% of the appraisal fee.

It is not currently cost-effective for the trainee or supervisor to have a trainee. Currently, the only way looks like being in a large firm or have a good secondary income from a spouse.
 
To do it correctly is a nightmare, so I’m not doing it. Maybe for an older, retired, semi-retired, person. Certainly within families.

But I wouldn’t train unless the entire fee went to me.
 
My Dear Senior members,

Could you please help me to find Supervisor/Mentor for me? I am in Vernon hills, IL. I am ready to work initially as volunteer/No split. I can spent at least 5-6 hours a day during day time and more time in evenngs. I want to learn and get certified.
 
My Dear Senior members,

Could you please help me to find Supervisor/Mentor for me? I am in Vernon hills, IL. I am ready to work initially as volunteer/No split. I can spent at least 5-6 hours a day during day time and more time in evenngs. I want to learn and get certified.

As a long time certified residential in Chicago area, i would defer to the moderator' reply. Chicago market is most saturated market as far as residential appraising is concerned. Now that When I am considering hanging up my hat, I receive many letters and phone calls from people looking for a mentor and i frankly tell them it is waste of time and resources to think of a future in this field. I myself tried in vain to find a mentor in commercial appraising a few years ago when i sensed residential side drying up fast.
 
Last 3 months, I tried to join with the supervisor, most of them I talked they discorage this field. what I hear was "Do not come to the appraisal field", "continue your real estate profession", "Appraisal field is going to die in 1-2 years". I keep hearing the same ****.

Few of them above 65 age group mentioned this is a dead field. I am a real estate agent, every sale i do or my office do we get "Appraiser report", why this field is dead.

I faced a few bad experiences in the last 2 months.

1) I sent several resumes to Chicago area appraisers( a few months back). During Christmas I got a call from one appraiser, he told me that he wants me to take as a trainee, within few minutes he told me one address, he wants me to visit one home and take pictures inside and upload. Then I asked about the company name and where his office location, he is not ready to give all the details but I had to provide pics of one home. I declined to visit his client home. After 3-4 day I called his office told them i want to meet appraisar and work with him. Office clerk/wife told me he is in europe on vacation. Office clerk told me that he just need my help for pictures. This kind of people misusing this profession.

2) One of my lenders referred AMC/some appraisal office. I visited the company, They told me they do most of the appraisal(80%) outside of Illinois. what they do here is data entry. Company asked me to start coming to their office a few times and they will decide my training. I told them I am not expecting any money at this point and I will help them and visit homes/prepare reports/get training to get my certification. They asked me you are real estate agent why are you coming to the appraisal field, I met several people they dont even have trainee license in that office, they are working like SLAVES. every time they do data entry they are entering $5 in excel, they told me that's what they get, they are doing the same thing for the last 6 months. One trainee guy told me that we don't learn anything here. they just use trainees to visit homes for photos for free or cheap data entry for minimum 2 years. my second visit they told me they are looking for people who don't have "Trainee" license. Then I realized they are misusing this "Trainee" system. Before training license, you need to work there for 6 months, as "trainee" another 2-3 years. I am not looking for this type of training.

Most of them I met they do not know how to use new tools, computers, One guy told me that to get "Certified Residential" it takes 5 years, 1500 work hours, 200 hr-education(as a trainee I already completed 75 hours). He told me he failed 6/7 times and completed education in 1 year. This kind of people working as an appraiser and trying to STOP people coming to this area.

If a person not visiting home, they just enter data to prepare the report, yes this is Bad profession, US govt should stop this profession or monitor how they do appraisals. I got 25-40 appraisal reports for my real sales(3-year time frame), 80% of appraisal reports are a piece of ****. they didn't select right comparables. They feel like NASA scientists.


I am ready to help residential/Commercial area. I have a master degree. Need genuine supervisor to teach me and add my work hours in a reasonable time. I will commit 12 months to 18 months only. I will keep trying to find the supervisor. I do not want to work with guys who misuse "Trainee"s.
 
As a long time certified residential in Chicago area, i would defer to the moderator' reply. Chicago market is most saturated market as far as residential appraising is concerned. Now that When I am considering hanging up my hat, I receive many letters and phone calls from people looking for a mentor and i frankly tell them it is waste of time and resources to think of a future in this field. I myself tried in vain to find a mentor in commercial appraising a few years ago when i sensed residential side drying up fast.

It is not dying, Lendors ordering appraisals thru AMC/Mills. they do not want to hire individual appraisers.
 
To do it correctly is a nightmare, so I’m not doing it. Maybe for an older, retired, semi-retired, person. Certainly within families.

But I wouldn’t train unless the entire fee went to me.


Who trained you? your family member?
 
I am ready to help residential/Commercial area. I have a master degree. Need genuine supervisor to teach me and add my work hours in a reasonable time. I will commit 12 months to 18 months only. I will keep trying to find the supervisor. I do not want to work with guys who misuse "Trainee"s.

Like I said weeks ago in this thread, Chicago has an extreme over-supply of appraisers. The only people you are going to find to work for are those who will not teach you correctly. However, someone willing to only commit to 12-18 months would be a crappy appraiser.

If you were to work for me I would insist on a four-year commitment. If you were to work for me I would pay you a fair wage. If you were to work for me I would make you take the 75 hours again from the AI after a year of experience. If you were to work for me I would trat you fair but expect a return on my investment. No one is looking to train their competition who is intent on leaving after 18 months.

Oh, and if you want to learn commercial, five years.
 
Who trained you? your family member?

No, but the rules were different back then. To do it correctly (legally and honestly) requires a huge effort. I believe that most don’t honor those rules.

As for my training? Barely any. Thrown to the wolves by a clown “trainer” who really wanted me more for running his business than anything.
 
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Like I said weeks ago in this thread, Chicago has an extreme over-supply of appraisers. The only people you are going to find to work for are those who will not teach you correctly. However, someone willing to only commit to 12-18 months would be a crappy appraiser.

If you were to work for me I would insist on a four-year commitment. If you were to work for me I would pay you a fair wage. If you were to work for me I would make you take the 75 hours again from the AI after a year of experience. If you were to work for me I would trat you fair but expect a return on my investment. No one is looking to train their competition who is intent on leaving after 18 months.

Oh, and if you want to learn commercial, five years.
 
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