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Old boss changed report and signed my name.

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How are you going to defend yourself when someone complains about this appraisal and all you can say is "I knew about it but didn't do anything"? I think that makes you an accessory after the fact.
 
How are you going to defend yourself when someone complains about this appraisal and all you can say is "I knew about it but didn't do anything"? I think that makes you an accessory after the fact.

Smokey,

Throwing aside the disrespect of the supe's action and to add more to your regulatory point, he has likely been harmed with potential legitimate clients. How much he is harmed is unknown at this point, but this is going to follow him around a long time even if he takes immediate action!

All this because of association and not really knowing who you are working with. :angry:
 
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Mr. Duck - (or anyone)

Why is it ever necessary for a person other than the appraiser to apply the signature of the appraiser to an appraisal report? I believe people who fancy themselves as being willing to listen to their fellow man's issues and concerns in business will finally acknowledge, even reluctantly, that there are cases where this should be allowed. But I would hope everyone would agree the instances where it is truly legitimate are rare.

But when is it legitimate to lie to your client? My guess is you would say never, but, of course, that will invite the "what-is-sex?" bunch to ask "what constitutes a lie?"

When an individual affixes a signature, or a mark to a document where the purpose of said signature/mark is (by law or convention) clearly intended to serve as evidence of the approval of another person, or willingly allows their signature/mark to be affixed by another person without disclosing what has actually happened to the client, has a lie been told?

I've read your posts and I hear you. Bottom line for me? I firmly believe with no reservations the authors of the phrase "sole personal control of affixing the signature" knew exactly what they meant when they wrote it. Specifically, they knew exactly what the term "control" meant as it applied to digital signatures.

But more importantly, they knew the answer to the question in the paragraph above; "has a lie been told?" And...they gave a specific example of correct procedure in pre-9/2007 Q&A. Sorry, I don't have text in front of me. But if my memory serves me it said "yes, it is permissible for another individual to sign for the appraiser as long as it is clear." And the example given of "clear" was something similar to "by MP for Duck."

So, now USPAP has opened the door to the debate regarding what is meant by the term "control." What about the issue of whether the client deserves to know another person other than the appraiser has affixed the signature of the appraiser?

MP
 
FRAUD.......FRAUD.......FRAUD........FRAUD.......FRAUD & FRAUD!!!!!!! Have some backbone!!! Take a dead breath and report them to what ever regulatory authority you have locally at hand even the FBI. Also have Certified copies made of your evidence and statutory declaration in Certified Mail off to Pam in Florida.

Mr. Jackson,

I suggest your lack of paying attention to your typing, and wording, is not going to help the cause of your message or to be as motivational as you intended.

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Definition: "dead breath" - Australian for "have a Fosters and relax mate!":new_all_coholic:
 
Definition: "dead breath" - Australian for "have a Fosters and relax mate!":new_all_coholic:


LOL! So did that fly right over my head from never having heard it? ... Ok, well glad we cleared that all up! ... Dang. Me bad! .. I didn't even notice he is in Australia or a light might have turned on in me whittle feathered head.

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Mr. Phillips,

Good post. ;) ... You know, what is not discussed so far would be the two very different circumstances of a single person appraiser office calling their spouse, who is fairly trained to "package" a report, and having them insert exhibits then affix a signature and send off a report that was all completed in all other ways..... Versus a kind of office situation the O.P. had wherein the O.P. became aware of FHA and VA certifications being falsified while at the same time allowing access to the O.P.s signature by the same untrustworthy people. I would have to say that in the first case the appraiser kept control. But, and this is not meant as harsh as it sounds but I can't help it, .... in the second case the appraiser involved is very foolish. "Control" in the second case can be seriously doubted.

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Mispetle DEPE

Mr. Jackson,

I suggest your lack of paying attention to your typing, and wording, is not going to help the cause of your message or to be as motivational as you intended.

Webbed.

Dear Duck, thanks for highlighting my dyslexic thumb typing style. The word was meant to be DEEP. Wayne got the translation right. Even if meierd2000 does nothing at state or federal levels copies and statutory declarations should be sent to Pam.
 
I tend to think the First American lawyers were involved in writing that September 2007 USPAP Q&A after the First American eAppraiseIT vs Pamela Crowley Emergency Hearing debacle. The sure did pound on me about that in their deposition of me.

Thank you Ken! I do hope meierd2000 does contact me.
 
Where ever there is wiggle room, snakes will find a way through.

With todays technology there is no reason that anyone but the appraiser should be affixing those digital signatures.
 
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