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Sufficiency Of Cost Approach?

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I recall bank engagement contracts specify the cost breakdowns provided on a construction loan are regarded as confidential information. Most builders I have met treat the EI on the level of a family jewel, to be regarded as sacred and private.
 
If you do the CA all of the time (even when the client doesn't care) you'll eventually get a pretty good feel for EI. And if you track your EI you'll get a pretty good handle on supply and demand. Maybe enough to "predict" a melt down or a boom.
 
Have never considered disclosing the name of the builder (for the cost breakdowns) in the appraisal report. Need to think about the confidentiality issue, unless the builder has given an ok to disclose.

I hear you Greg (both Gregs :ohmy:).
The point I was raising is that just citing "local builders" in and by itself isn't sufficient IMO. And be prepared to actually have "local builders" if asked by the client or the regulator (where there is no confidentiality).

In my reports, I'll state something like:
I've reviewed costs by local contractors including Always Right Construction, Below-Budget Builders, and We Can Build It Development, LLC.
But I think it would be fine to reference them by type:
"I've reviewed building costs of 3 developers in this market. Those costs are from prior assignments and I consider the names of the developers to be confidential. The building types and costs referenced are similar to the subject-like property and provide a good indication of market costs for this area for the subject. I have retained the specific data in my work file. The $/SF RCN ranges between $175 and $195, and I've reconciled to $190."​
... or something like that.

I could be wrong, but I cannot imagine a mortgage-related client/reviewer requesting the specifics of the builders if a statement like that is included. They may want evidence of the costs: that's fine. I can redact the confidential information of the documents I'm relying on (name, address, dates) and even redact some of the specifics and just give the summary totals.
If a mortgage-lending client wants more than that, I'd find another mortgage lending client.
 
You're not wrong Denis and I know what you meant (just stating "local builders" is a cop out.) For the most part the typical cost sources I use work well (building-cost, the assessor's cost handbook, NADA, etc.). But in some areas, particularly along the Mendocino Coast it all goes out the window because there are no cost modifiers to be found. Over the years I've seen a dozen or so bids on custom builds and have a feel for how much to "adjust the book." But I doubt if I could produce the bids if I had to.
 
You're not wrong Denis and I know what you meant (just stating "local builders" is a cop out.) For the most part the typical cost sources I use work well (building-cost, the assessor's cost handbook, NADA, etc.). But in some areas, particularly along the Mendocino Coast it all goes out the window because there are no cost modifiers to be found. Over the years I've seen a dozen or so bids on custom builds and have a feel for how much to "adjust the book." But I doubt if I could produce the bids if I had to.

I think this is an excellent example of how the hard data and the appraiser's judgment and experience can work together.

So, in Mendocino County, let's assume you use Builders-Cost.net & the assessor handbook (I think I'd consider the assessor handbook to be superior for that area, but you know it much better than I do). And, after you do the calculations, you determine, based on your experience, that the cost estimate is too low, so you think a modification is warranted (let's say 15% upward).
In your report, you (a) provide the Builders-cost.net data sheet and supplement that with the assessor's handbook estimate (citing the section information and year published... along with the website like you do). Then you add your judgment:
"The published costing sources indicate an RCN $/SF between $130/sf and $140/sf. I've reconciled an indicated RCN of $140/sf. However, in my experience within this market, due to the X, Y, and Z's, these estimates are typically lower than what actual costs are. I've therefore applied a 1.15 modifier and reconciled a $/sf RCN at $161/sf. I then have considered an EI allocation of 15% (see discussion on Entrepreneurial Incentive) , and have rounded my "all in" RCN for the residential and garage improvement at $185/sf."​
You've cited two costing sources and have supplemented that with your appraiser judgment of a 15% modifier. The lender can replicate your analysis with your numbers if they want. They can judge, based on your X, Y & Z reasons, if the 15% modifier is reasonable or not. And, they have the information to evaluate your EI allocation as well.

Do you cite a credible source? Yes. Do you provide some explanation and rationale of how your judgment fits into the picture? Yes.
Is it reasonable? I think it is, but that's up to the lender to decide. But the components of how you did your analysis and what your conclusion is, are available for all to read, consider, and evaluate.

Most residential reports I see don't come close to that....and most of those reports are in markets where it isn't that hard to get reasonably reliable cost data, relatively solid land values, or (with a little work) EI estimates.
 
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The cost approach for most SF appraisals (maybe ALL done for GSE-related work) are done using the square foot method. I don't know about all cost information services used for residential work, but M&S includes contractor's profit in its costs (#6 in the list in post #13) in its Residential Cost Handbook and in Swiftestimator . Why, then, would an appraiser include EI in the cost approach for a single family house?
 
A contractor's profit is not necessarily the same as EI. Picture both a Developer and a Contractor (some wear two hats) with each party ideally making something above their costs.
 
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The cost approach for most SF appraisals (maybe ALL done for GSE-related work) are done using the square foot method. I don't know about all cost information services used for residential work, but M&S includes contractor's profit in its costs (#6 in the list in post #13) in its Residential Cost Handbook and in Swiftestimator . Why, then, would an appraiser include EI in the cost approach for a single family house?

Contractor mark up / profit is not the same as entrepreneurial profit.
 
I understand. Why is the contractor's incentive (before buying a lot and starting construction) and contractor's profit (difference between sales price and cost) different? M&S says plainly that contractor's profit is included in its square foot method - that profit IS the entrepreneurial incentive. Are you saying that, in addition to the components of the property, a cost approach using M&S's Residential Cost Handbook or Swiftestimator is - on its face - defective because it does not include a separate entry for EI?
 
Entrepreneurs hire contractors to develop a property. The contractor needs his profit from his labor and costs, the entrepreneur needs his profit for the risk and time associated with developing a property instead of some other investment.

National cost handbooks don't include EP/EI because they can't. EP/EI is market derived at the local level and the analyst has to develop that through studying the market.

The cost handbook available through California's Board of Equalization states that EI is included in their costs.
 
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