Randolph Kinney
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Sometimes you don't have to hit anything, Teslas catch fire by themselves!
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The Coming Electric Vehicle Transformation: Impact on House Values
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Sometimes you don't have to hit anything, Teslas catch fire by themselves!
RCA
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By searching my profile on the internet, you have opened the door for me to search on you as well. There is National Registry, and many websites. There is Linked In. Where do we draw the line? Do you think you are the judge and jury here?
Most the people I work with in software pretty accurate information about themselves on LinkedIn. Most MAIs and SRAs are pretty open about their professional qualifications. However, lower level appraisers often hide behind anonymity or hide their qualifications as well as possible.
There is only one appraiser in the National Registry with the last name of Micozzi. - James Micozzi, which I ASSUME, of course, is your name. On LinkedIn there are two entries for an appraiser named Micozzi - one for Jim Micozzi and one for a James Micozzi. Often those not adept at using social websites, create multiple accounts for themselves under different versions of their name, and usually these are created at different points in time. I would assume that has happened here. After all, there is "currently" only one Micozzi in the National Registry. So, I think that is an acceptable assumption. However, I suppose it is possible the Jim Micozzi on LinkedIn is someone else who is no longer an appraiser. But given that Jim Micozzi, worked at BCS Valuation, which is located not far from where you live, that there is only one Micozzi in the United States in the National Registry, what is the probability I'm wrong? If I am, then I suppose Jim Micozzi is just maybe a relative. Or, heck, maybe he is not related to you at all - after New York City is very large and there are probably a lot of Micozzi's. And Jim Micozzi, or whoever he is, maybe is using a fake name and lying about being an appraiser. WTF knows?
But, in the end we do have to make some assumptions, even if very tenuous. So, well, who is James Micozzi? Who is Jim Micozzi? Do they exist? Are they one and the same as the person purporting to be James Micozzi on this forum? I bet we will never know for sure.
If I wanted to get this all straightened out, I could. It's no absolutely necessary by any stretch of the imagination, because I already assume, on this forum, I am talking to phantoms. - But, you can correct the information if you want. For what it is worth. And at this point, it is not worth that much.
Yet, I'm suggesting you have a college degree, assuming that you are the Jim Micozzi on LinkedIn. But maybe you don't. If that account is legit, then it is still possible it could be someone else.
You could make your profile on this forum visible. But you are hiding it for some reason.
Why do I waste my time on this forum? .... It's a kind of exercise.
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They're using electric vehicles in underground mines now. Underground, they have definite advantages. They are also developing them for open pit mines as well. These things are going to be gigantic. Hard to imagine.
Electric is the future. Storing batteries at battery stations will be so much better than storing fuel. No more gas trucks!! No more underground gas/diesel storage containers leaking fuel into groundwater.
And just look around you. Charging stations are everywhere. You can "get your tank refilled" at your hotel, the restaurant, at work or wherever. Goodbye gasoline stations.
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You realize gasoline powered vehicles sometimes catch fire too, right?
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They have been using electric powered equipment in underground mines for decades.
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They are now getting much larger:
The Next Frontier for Electric Vehicles: Deep Underground
From rural Canada to Australia’s dusty Outback, mining companies are swapping out diesel-fueled equipment for battery-powered, looking to reduce emissions and eliminate exhaust fumes that foul the underground air and risk miners’ health.
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"SYDNEY—The next boom in electric vehicles could be the world’s mining fleet.
From rural Canada to Australia’s dusty Outback, companies are swapping out diesel-fueled drills, loaders and utility vehicles for equipment powered by lithium-ion batteries. They are looking to reduce emissions and eliminate the exhaust fumes that foul the underground air and risk miners’ health.
About 35 electric vehicles are at work at Newmont Goldcorp Corp. ’s Borden mine near Chapleau, Ontario, unearthing ore or ferrying workers around the site, which began producing commercial volumes in October. Newmont wants the mine to go all-electric. An electric production drill will arrive early next year, a spokesman said, and diesel haul trucks are likely to be phased out."
“The Holy Grail is a haul truck,” said Kirsten Rose, who oversees low-emission technologies at BHP Group Ltd. , the world’s largest mining company by market value.
Heavy-duty haul trucks carry tons of ore out of the bottom of pits, and with current technology, matching the power of their diesel engines would require an enormous battery pack.
BHP has been testing a light electric vehicle over the past year at Olympic Dam, Australia’s largest underground mine, and this month it will add another. The company intends to expand the trial to other Australian mines. In Canada, workers planning BHP’s Jansen potash project are assessing how many electric vehicles could be deployed if it goes ahead.
The aim is to one day eliminate all diesel-powered machines from mine sites, Ms. Rose said.
Smaller rivals are also stepping up efforts to go green. Among them, Nouveau Monde Graphite Inc. is planning an all-electric open-pit graphite mine in Quebec.
Proponents counter that running costs are lower. Borden’s annual energy expenses should be lower by roughly US$9 million—possibly more—than a traditional mine’s, the Newmont spokesman said.
One factor in that: As much as 40% of an underground mine’s energy costs are tied to powering giant ventilation systems to extract pollutants from tunnels.
Customers and investors are pushing for global resources companies to clean up their act. With a growing focus on the social impact of investments, many big pension funds and asset managers, as well as project financiers, are pressing miners to disclose and cut their carbon footprints. Diesel is a ripe target: It accounts for over one-third of BHP’s direct operational emissions, Ms. Rose said.
Regulators might soon join in the push. In July, the mines department of Western Australia state raised fresh concerns about the health of workers who spend as many as 12 hours a day guiding heavy machinery around subterranean labyrinths.
“Diesel-engine exhaust is a known hazard for mining operations, especially in underground mines,” said Andrew Chaplyn, the department’s director of mines safety. A government committee is drawing up recommendations for the state’s mines minister.
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But they don't electrocute the fireman...
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They are now getting much larger:
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The Next Frontier for Electric Vehicles: Deep Underground
From rural Canada to Australia’s dusty Outback, mining companies are swapping out diesel-fueled equipment for battery-powered, looking to reduce emissions and eliminate exhaust fumes that foul the underground air and risk miners’ health.
"SYDNEY—The next boom in electric vehicles could be the world’s mining fleet.
From rural Canada to Australia’s dusty Outback, companies are swapping out diesel-fueled drills, loaders and utility vehicles for equipment powered by lithium-ion batteries. They are looking to reduce emissions and eliminate the exhaust fumes that foul the underground air and risk miners’ health.
About 35 electric vehicles are at work at Newmont Goldcorp Corp. ’s Borden mine near Chapleau, Ontario, unearthing ore or ferrying workers around the site, which began producing commercial volumes in October. Newmont wants the mine to go all-electric. An electric production drill will arrive early next year, a spokesman said, and diesel haul trucks are likely to be phased out."
“The Holy Grail is a haul truck,” said Kirsten Rose, who oversees low-emission technologies at BHP Group Ltd. , the world’s largest mining company by market value.
Heavy-duty haul trucks carry tons of ore out of the bottom of pits, and with current technology, matching the power of their diesel engines would require an enormous battery pack.
BHP has been testing a light electric vehicle over the past year at Olympic Dam, Australia’s largest underground mine, and this month it will add another. The company intends to expand the trial to other Australian mines. In Canada, workers planning BHP’s Jansen potash project are assessing how many electric vehicles could be deployed if it goes ahead.
The aim is to one day eliminate all diesel-powered machines from mine sites, Ms. Rose said.
Smaller rivals are also stepping up efforts to go green. Among them, Nouveau Monde Graphite Inc. is planning an all-electric open-pit graphite mine in Quebec.
Proponents counter that running costs are lower. Borden’s annual energy expenses should be lower by roughly US$9 million—possibly more—than a traditional mine’s, the Newmont spokesman said.
One factor in that: As much as 40% of an underground mine’s energy costs are tied to powering giant ventilation systems to extract pollutants from tunnels.
Customers and investors are pushing for global resources companies to clean up their act. With a growing focus on the social impact of investments, many big pension funds and asset managers, as well as project financiers, are pressing miners to disclose and cut their carbon footprints. Diesel is a ripe target: It accounts for over one-third of BHP’s direct operational emissions, Ms. Rose said.
Regulators might soon join in the push. In July, the mines department of Western Australia state raised fresh concerns about the health of workers who spend as many as 12 hours a day guiding heavy machinery around subterranean labyrinths.
“Diesel-engine exhaust is a known hazard for mining operations, especially in underground mines,” said Andrew Chaplyn, the department’s director of mines safety. A government committee is drawing up recommendations for the state’s mines minister.
As far as I can see. Nothing but a bunch of could be, may be, might be. The large strip mine excavators are electric. Just not battery powered. Underground equipment in coal mines have been electric for decades (just not battery powered). Just hope a battery does not die deep in an underground mine. Down time would be a killer
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There are 3 in all of NW Arkansas, all the Telsa owners and hybrid owners I know recharge at home
Electric fork lifts have been around for a long time, but they charge with conventional deep cycle batteries because they need the weight as counterbalance. Tractors, combines, etc. will be a no go.
No. activist greenies are. Investors want a profit and customers want a cheaper product. I would love to see the fossil fuel industry shut down for 30 days...then see what energy sources actually work.
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