The Coming Electric Vehicle Transformation: Impact on House Values

[glenn walker]

I don't see it having anything to do with home prices ...it might affect gas station owner's income, though likely they may close down some gas pumps and make battery charging stations there instead.

Sure not in California many have no electricity and PG & E says 10 years to get their system up to speed. The ones with electric cars are really screwed and charging stations are being vandalized or I drive bye and people just park there regular cars in them. kaiser Hospital had one space open and two guys almost got in a fist fight over a charger. NOPE what works in Sweden or Germany doesn't work here in California but it makes for good publicity. Anyway with AOC saying we only have 12 years left those poor PG & E customers will only have two years left to enjoy those electric cars and scooters.

 

[RCA]

Fossil fuel use continues to expand even as "green" energy expands. Nuclear energy is the only energy that can be upscaled to meet future demand and additionally is the only one that can expand base load requirements. For every new Wind turbine or solar panel, comes a requirement to duplicate that capacity with something to guarantee the base grid requirements can be instantaneously met. The problem with the grid is, like green energy itself, you cannot store electricity in sufficient quantity to cover the times the wind dies or the sun does not shine. The only instantaneous source is gas, coal, or nuclear....and, when the conditions are right, hydroelectric, which again, cannot provide more a few percent of our needs.

Where did you get that information? Source?

 

[RCA]

I see you are twisting my word to suit your agenda. Here is my prior quote exactly as I wrote it earlier

And how do you generate the electricity for those "non polluting" electrical cars? by burning more fuel, like oil, gas, coal, etc., to meet the demand.

So you obviously want to twist my words to fit your agenda. Weak, weak, weak.

And I say, solar, wind, ocean, geothermal, .... In fact Tesla batteries can be directly hooked up to home solar panels. Do you get it, finally?

 

[Terraform]

That's because it still takes coal to make steel
And steel is used in all cars, electric, hybrid, gas, diesel.

so as the demand for fossil fuels goes down,
the price of coal and fossil fuels goes up,
which just makes the electric cars, and everything else, more expensive.

Horse and buggy, fertilize the fields along the way.

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Not just steel, asphalt, plastic, basically everything you see in front of you.

 

[James Micozzi]

And I say, solar, wind, ocean, geothermal, .... In fact Tesla batteries can be directly hooked up to home solar panels. Do you get it, finally?

yeah. you are a California liberal. Got it.

 

[RCA]

Not just steel, asphalt, plastic, basically everything you see in front of you.

I think you mean aluminum. That's what they use for solar panels. Aluminum requires so much electricity, they locate the plants near hydroelectric sources for low cost: "Because smelting requires significant amounts of electricity, some primary aluminum smelters can be found in areas with lower-cost electricity, often in areas with rich hydroelectric resources, such as the Pacific Northwest and Upstate New York."

Still, yes, the electric from hydroelectric the aluminum plants suck up isn't available to consumers - who then need more electricity from other non-renewable sources.

Yet, the power that goes into making solar panels, produces products that will last 25-30+ years. So, after you distribute that power over 25-30 years, it doesn't amount to as much as burning coal on a continual basis to generate electricity. That is the primary deficiency of your argument.

 

[Terraform]

yeah. you are a California liberal. Got it.

I wonder if a Cal Lib will be the next n word?

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Where did you get that information? Source?

Huh? You the engineer doesn't know what base load is? Buy the book...she is a 'global warming' advocate. Do you not understand that if you depend upon solar only, you have 50% of the time the sun isn't shining... and in morning and evening it is low on the horizon? So you have only 1 renewable source in the night? Wind? How many times does the wind lay about sundown? SO where will the energy come from? It comes from base load. Base load is predominately fossil fuels which can be ramped up and down as demand varies. Since wind/solar can produce from 10% to less than 50% of their rated output on average, and can actually combined at night can go to zero...something has to be on demand. And thus you have to maintain the steam pressure to turn the turbines. Even if a plant is idled, the head of steam required must be maintained at a certain level. Many plants in the 1950s had their own steam generators because grid power was unreliable. Once grid power became reliable, these were abandoned. Now they wish they had them back. My father was boiler fireman at a Pet Milk plant. The plant idled all night. They switched to city utility power at night, but they maintained enough steam power to turn the generators in the morning. Musks energy boxes don't put out enough energy to run your house all day. Batteries are discussed in the book below. It is a very short term thing. Some people around here were out over a week when a tornado struck a couple weeks ago.

 

[Carnivore]

In fact Tesla batteries can be directly hooked up to home solar panels. Do you get it, finally?

This is interesting. Now I can get on-board with a hybrid that uses carbon base fuel and electric car where you can recharge with a home PV system. That does not exist for the Prius. My question to Toyota is why is there not a home PV dedicated to Prius Battery. Maybe a Better question is: Why is no one marketing such a system?

But maybe there is a better way to reduce your individual cost of recharging your car and probably have money left over.

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[Carnivore]

Interesting: