The word "Average" in the improvements section - possible bias?

[Tom D]

dale, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings reading our report. the holy left so command. please step in line to the new tune. on a long time ago with the qualitative report, you only had to put a + or - on the grid. would the minus sign now be a symbol of racism.

 

[DWiley]

Actually, it is the perfect example. And to be sure we all understand - Are you saying you would not have understood "Average: without that explanation on your kid's grade card?



Respectfully, the only people who don't understand "Average" without a glossary of terms works for the White House or a GSE.

My kids grade cards always contained a scale explaining the grades. e.g. A=93-100, B=92-85, etc.
And, no, I would not have been certain what the grades meant without that scale. I could guess, but I would not know, Some might think an A was 90-100 rather than 93-100, since 90-100 was used as for so long.

The problem with "average" as used in appraisal reports is that appraisers do not use it in the same way. Some use an absolute rating and some rate based on what is "typical for the area." That is why we see brand new homes with the carpet, walls, etc, rated as "Average" because the appraiser claims it is "average" for the area.

All I am suggesting is including your "scale" so readers know how you are grading

 

[ucbruin]

"we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings reading our report. the holy left so command. please step in line to the new tune."

The bank trained me to remember that the borrower could receive a copy of the report....
So don't include unnecessary language and phrases that could cause issues in case the borrower felt offended by it....

 

[Dale Floyd]

My kids grade cards always contained a scale explaining the grades. e.g. A=93-100, B=92-85, etc.
And, no, I would not have been certain what the grades meant without that scale. I could guess, but I would not know, Some might think an A was 90-100 rather than 93-100, since 90-100 was used as for so long.

The problem with "average" as used in appraisal reports is that appraisers do not use it in the same way. Some use an absolute rating and some rate based on what is "typical for the area." That is why we see brand new homes with the carpet, walls, etc, rated as "Average" because the appraiser claims it is "average" for the area.

All I am suggesting is including your "scale" so readers know how you are grading

Perhaps you need to re-read my example.

In school, there is a grade code that goes like this - A, B, C, D, F. Perhaps I'm overconfident, but I feel pretty sure that a parent reading the report card doesn't need to have a grading lesson to understand which one of those would be represented by the word "Average".

I didn't say anything about the specific grades. I do believe Mr. and Mrs. DW would fully understand which of those grades relates to their child being "average" in a subject.

Come on Danny... Your argument for the sake of argument, is just silly.

 

[djd09]

"we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings reading our report. the holy left so command. please step in line to the new tune."

The bank trained me to remember that the borrower could receive a copy of the report....
So don't include unnecessary language and phrases that could cause issues in case the borrower felt offended by it....

that is right...all of the word policing (unconstitutional) for the easily offended

 

[DWiley]

Perhaps you need to re-read my example.



I didn't say anything about the specific grades. I do believe Mr. and Mrs. DW would fully understand which of those grades relates to their child being "average" in a subject.

Come on Danny... Your argument for the sake of argument, is just silly.

No - I am not. I have given you real examples of what I see in reports.

In a brand new house in a subdivision of new houses, should the carpet be reported as being in average condition or not? Whatever you think, about half the appraisers disagree with you

You keep saying we all know what that word means. The problem is that you know what it means to YOU, but that does not mean that it also means the same thing to everyone. So, include a explanation in your report. Its really not that difficult. So, I think you are the one arguing just to argue

 

[Tom D]

so you say that in situational ethics i see it as new, you see it as average. i would think the word new is a fixed meaning definition for condition. using the word average for new condition is not understanding the word, condition, referencing to it. subject is new construction with every condition noted as average in a new project. let's not make excuses for stupid. and explaining stupid is more stupid. if you have to explain your contradicting term, you got it wrong.

 

[RCA]

Actually, it is the perfect example. And to be sure we all understand -

It doesn't do you a bit of good to "understand" rubbish.

What is missing, completely missing, is observational and analytical ability.

I present the failures of the system, not the complete solution ---> you just don't deserve it. And I know you people aren't at all smart enough, nowhere near it, not even at the high-paying GSEs with all their degrees, --- to figure it out. So, my objective is to prove how idiotic the whole system is - and watch how absolutely nothing is understood or solutions proposed. It just won't happen.

I sit back and relax.

No doubt there are a few who see the light of day. But i would argue, that they are deciving themselves if they can design a workable system for appraisers. - It is really not that easy.

So, yes, we see here - you just close your eyes and go on as if nothing is wrong with what you are doing, as long as everyone else closes their eyes as needed.

Blind retards walking through the girl's shower room shouting: "Close your eyes, I'm coming through."

Ha, ha.

 

[Artemis Fowl]

Didn't read the whole thread. Average sucks as a descriptor without context. I'm gonna assume the reasoning has already been beat to death. I always preferred to model things to be able to use inferior/similar/superior because it gives you a benchmark to measure to.

 

[djd09]

i dont know why some other appraiser cares about what words i use... socialism sucks