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This Won't end Well for Germany

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The Russians long history with the Scythians is a sphere of influence with a common language (Russian) ..... NATO has been sticking its nose too far under Ukraines skirt for far too long. Russia has no interest in a puny piece of Ukraine - they just want their rightful buffer of respect/sphere of influence. Leave Ukraine alone and Russia will leave Ukraine alone.
"the right of political self-determination for all nations after free and fair elections were held without fear of outside aggression" and "no international borders being redrawn by force" were noble principles that this country supported pre-Trump. What other government on the planet is going to advance the causes of freedom and liberty if not us? Great power comes with great responsibilities.
 
The right of political self-determination for all nations after free and fair elections were held without fear of outside aggression and no international borders being redrawn by force were noble principles that this country supported pre-Trump. What other government on the planet is going to advance the causes of freedom and liberty if not us? Great power comes with great responsibilities.
Its a 1000 year old history of Russian peoples. Please .... total BS ......... Mike your about as far from right to free determination .... puke!
 
The right of political self-determination for all nations after free and fair elections were held without fear of outside aggression and no international borders being redrawn by force were noble principles that this country supported pre-Trump. What other government on the planet is going to advance the causes of freedom and liberty if not us? Great power comes with great responsibilities.
Are those the flutterings of neocons' wings?:unsure: And while noble aspirations, were they part of the ideological justification for our involvement in Vietnam (and other places)?
 
"the right of political self-determination for all nations after free and fair elections were held without fear of outside aggression" and "no international borders being redrawn by force" were noble principles that this country supported pre-Trump. What other government on the planet is going to advance the causes of freedom and liberty if not us? Great power comes with great responsibilities.
Thanks Uncle Ben but this ain't Spider-Man.
 
Head of German Navy stepped down today ..... because of stupid folks like you.
 
As for the bolded part "we don't need our military deployed beyond our borders for any reason unless it's in our national interest" is the correct way to look at it. We already spend too much $$$ being the world cops.

Are those the flutterings of neocons' wings?:unsure: And while noble aspirations, were they part of the ideological justification for our involvement in Vietnam (and other places)?
It's going to be a lot more expensive to reverse aggression in the world than it would've been to prevent it from happening in the first place by supporting alliances with Western leaning nations that think like us and support our causes. As far as Vietnam goes, if we were actually there to support free and fair elections like we professed it would've been a noble cause however we knew said election would have resulted in Ho Chi Minh's victory so we never arranged for them to be held like we were supposed to after the first "Paris Peace Accords". The fact that Nixon and Kissinger knew the war was lost and still "surged" troops into Cambodia so Vietnam wouldn't fall to the Communists before he was elected to a second term elevated him to the status of "war criminal".
 
Are those the flutterings of neocons' wings?:unsure:
I think that George W. Bush actually did believe what he was trying to sell (elections would lead to Western-style democracies), Cheney and Rumsfeld however suffered under no such aspirations and saw American forces abroad as a way to control the world's resources which were to be divided up amongst the oligarchs & robber barons. I hate the fact that freely held elections in Muslim countries automatically leads to Sharia law which denies women education & basic human rights. I'm not sure where that puts me on the "neocon spectrum" however I hear the struggling heartbeats of liberty and freedom being smothered (aborted?) with all the "America First" isolationism being admitted from the new right wing during the present crisis.
 
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