Virgina REAB and Portal Petition

[McPheeters]

Again I ask, the question - Of those who think it is not compliant, which specific section of USPAP do they believe is violated?

Well, lets start with the signature issue. I am of the opininon that agreeing to allow AI Ready to remove my signature and re-apply it at their discretion is in violation of USPAP signature definition; specifically the "sole control" portion.

While I am thinking of it, I would add that AI Ready/Appraisalport/FNC is not violating USPAP, the appraiser is by participating in this portals requirements.

 

[DWiley]

Well, lets start with the signature issue. I am of the opininon that agreeing to allow AI Ready to remove my signature and re-apply it at their discretion is in violation of USPAP signature definition; specifically the "sole control" portion.

OK. And where exactly does one agree to that? I have used AIReady, and I have never agreed to any such terms.

The signature in an AIReady file is an imbedded image, just as it is in a PDF file. If someone lifted the image and re-applied it w/o consent that would be no difefrent than taking it from a PDF file.

 

[McPheeters]

You "agreed" when you hit the send button. The program does not bother with telling you that it is going to remove your signature....

"The signature in an AIReady file is an imbedded image, just as it is in a PDF file."
It is my understanding that my original sig is removed and packaged/sent as a separate file.

If someone lifted the image and re-applied it w/o consent that would be no difefrent than taking it from a PDF file.

You make my point. the portal is not telling you that it is removing your sig.

 

[Don Clark]

OK. And where exactly does one agree to that? I have used AIReady, and I have never agreed to any such terms.

The signature in an AIReady file is an imbedded image, just as it is in a PDF file. If someone lifted the image and re-applied it w/o consent that would be no difefrent than taking it from a PDF file.

Danny,

As one who has admired your service to the profession, and depend on your guidance in many issues, and believe that you are being somewhat unfairly taken to task simply because you were on the ASB and part of TAF, I do have to say that this statement has me somewhat perplexed.

I hope you are not saying that it is OK or not a big deal if the signature is being removed then reapplied as long as you or other appraisers did not consent to it. tell me it ain't so??????

 

[DWiley]

I hope you are not saying that it is OK or not a big deal if the signature is being removed then reapplied as long as you or other appraisers did not consent to it. tell me it ain't so??????

I am not saying that at all. What I am saying is that the way AIReady handles signatures is no different than the way PDF handles signatures. So, if one wants to fight against AIReady on the basis of how it handles signatures, then PDF should be in the crosshairs as well.

The truth is I think many have gone waaaaay too far in their interpretation of "sole personalized control." Taken to the extreme, there is no such thing. If I send a signed paper report one could easily scan the signature off the paper report and re-apply it at will. Does that constitute loss of signature control as well?

As I have said many times, the real answer is to apply a true digital signature and not rely solely on a password protected image of one's signature.

 

[DWiley]

It is my understanding that my original sig is removed and packaged/sent as a separate file.

It is not. The signature is imbedded in the electronic file just as all other data in the report.

 

[Pamela Crowley (Florida)]

Who is paying whom to spin this into acceptable BS?????

 

[Pamela Crowley (Florida)]

Why is FNC's / Appraisal Port's attorney attending various State Board meeting to defend the Appraisal Institute's AI Ready conversion/alteration (abomination) of appraisal reports?????
Sure looks like FNC and the AI really are in this together.

 

[McPheeters]

It is not. The signature is imbedded in the electronic file just as all other data in the report.

And to think I trusted Scott Kinnard.....Looks like I better sue Ala Mode for lying to me then........:new_smile-l: (i'm being sarcastic Dave....)

 

[Smokey Bear]

You "agreed" when you hit the send button. The program does not bother with telling you that it is going to remove your signature....

"The signature in an AIReady file is an imbedded image, just as it is in a PDF file."
It is my understanding that my original sig is removed and packaged/sent as a separate file.

If someone lifted the image and re-applied it w/o consent that would be no difefrent than taking it from a PDF file.

You make my point. the portal is not telling you that it is removing your sig.

I think this is an ACI thing, or the unnamed "3rd party" or whatever. Looks like different companies do it different ways. Either way, the appraiser gets screwed.