What if......

[Fernando]

ya know, I've read this three times - and each time it makes less sense. That's not easy, Fern. I'm impressed.

That's what's happening with Trump's tariffs. It doesn't make sense.
No wonder business are confused and not good for Wall Street.

 

[BRCJR]

That's what's happening with Trump's tariffs. It doesn't make sense.
No wonder business are confused and not good for Wall Street.

so, the stock market is bad by your metrics?

 

[Fernando]

I calculated with cheap gas, my Tesla electricity cost is higher than my gas cars at this time but I still love driving my Tesla.
I can't imagine peasants buying EVs now.
The future of Tesla and EV cars are at stake. Tesla will continue to have declining sales.
Trump gave the EV market and future to China.

 

[Dublin ohio]

Even with 20+% tariffs, foreign countries still make money or less profit and they don't need to make deals with Trump.

Someone is eating the tariffs and how long can that be sustained

Canada signed natural gas deal with China which would been unheard of in past.
The gas instead of going to US will be going to China. Thanks Trump.

That deal was started over 10 years ago. They are just making their first shipment.. We really don't need their natural gas since we are the largest producer in the world

 

[IlliniApp]

How do you surmise that, since goods are cheaper in the US, tariffs aren't hurting other countries? Not sure how you connected those dots, Fern.

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[Dublin ohio]

Trump gave the EV market and future to China.

China is taking big losses on their EV sales.

 

[Fernando]

so, the stock market is bad by your metrics?

Wall Street hates uncertainty.
Trump making threats and other countries not responding back and Dollar weakening.
Wild card is tariffs which kept FED from decreasing interest rates. What will erratic Trump do?

 

[Fernando]

China is taking big losses on their EV sales.

Gasoline prices here are lowest at around $4.20/gallon.
I was hoping to see prices go below $4.
It should be lower but gas taxes in CA keep going up.
Still cheaper to drive gas cars than EVs.

 

[cashcatz]

China is taking big losses on their EV sales.

Do you have a source for that? There's a lot of competition between Chinese manufactures between themselves. And they're building some really impressive stuff over the last couple years like these:

Now really understand why Tesla isn't doing so hot on the global market? And why there's a 100% tariff on them? Hint: they would eat the Big 3's lunch - they are already causing trouble for the staganent Japanese builders.

 

[Dublin ohio]

Do you have a source for that? There's a lot of competition between Chinese manufactures between themselves. And they're building some really impressive stuff over the last couple years like these:

Now really understand why Tesla isn't doing so hot on the global market? And why there's a 100% tariff on them? Hint: they would eat the Big 3's lunch - they are already causing trouble for the staganent Japanese builders.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that at the price they are selling them for, they are either taking a loss or are getting large subsidies. Either way it is not sustainable