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Wild Fires In LA

That sound pretty good thought J Grant. A limit on payout, but it seems the government puts out more than received. So if you can cure that, your idea is perfect. Personally, i'm tired of people building houses along a constant flooding river. Fannie now buys that property instead of fixing many times. The same goes for hurricane & tornado alley.

I predict los angelas burned areas will become an urban desert. Too many related things to be fixed at once, including properties and businesses.

California Wildfire Map Update As Poway Fire Starts

Firefighters are still battling two massive wildfires in Los Angeles on Monday afternoon as a new fire ignited near San Diego as strong winds returned to southern California.
Powerful Santa Ana winds fueled the rapid spread of wildfires in San Diego County early Tuesday, prompting evacuations as officials in Los Angeles remained on high alert amid high winds and relentless dry conditions.

At least three fires broke out in northern San Diego County overnight, including the Lilac and Pala fires, which grew to 50 and 30 acres, respectively, with 0% containment as of Tuesday morning.
This morning I woke up to smoke in my local air. :eek: I suspect it is from the fires in N San Diego County, as we are about 30 miles north of there. There was a blanket of greyish white stretching across the horizon. My eyes were burning this morning from the smoke, and I could certainly smell the burn. Yesterday there was a large fire in Hemet, which is east of me about 18 miles. It apparently took out a school and surrounding area. That is quite a flat neighborhood, so I understand they got the flames put out within a day or so. The firefighters must be absolutely exhausted. They are heroes for sure.

We have a mountain ridge rising to my west about 4 miles away, running kinda north to south, which separates Riverside County from Orange County, with one major mountainy road going across it, called the Ortega Highway. If that catches fire this time we will be in big trouble here. The topography has fairly steep mountain slopes, dried timber and shrubs, 1-way in/out. A number of years ago a resident living in one of the tiny villages up there had a dispute with his neighbor and told him he'd burn his house down. That he did. Went to jail. But we had to deal with the smoke etc in town, and quite a bit of land burned. In the aftermath, many insurance companies would no longer write homeowner policies on the land between the (15) Freeway and that mountain ridge due to fire danger. Should be due to ARSONIST danger; that was not a natural burn. Caused by human anger and stupidity. But as always, there's consequences to everything.
 
polling data shows that 48% of respondents blame Governor Newsom for the fires, while 47% assign some level of responsibility to Mayor Bass.​
Meanwhile the fires are continuing to burn
The Hughes fire, burning near Castaic Lake north of Santa Clarita, exploded to more than 10,000 acres of mostly brush in just a few hours. More than 50,000 people were under evacuation orders and warnings.​

 
firefighters must be absolutely exhausted. They are heroes for sure.
Are they getting any hotshot crews from the Rockies? Those guys are the wildfire fighters from the USDA, states, etc. and real pros in mountainous terrain. I cannot past thru Glenwood Springs and not recall the Storm King Mountain Disaster and get a little lump in my throat. A lot of good people died. My neighbor was a firefighter for the Arkansas forestry commission and built firelanes with a dozer in Ozark Natl Forest.
 
Are they getting any hotshot crews from the Rockies? Those guys are the wildfire fighters from the USDA, states, etc. and real pros in mountainous terrain. I cannot past thru Glenwood Springs and not recall the Storm King Mountain Disaster and get a little lump in my throat. A lot of good people died. My neighbor was a firefighter for the Arkansas forestry commission and built firelanes with a dozer in Ozark Natl Forest.
 
California Democrats blocked a Republican amendment to add $1 billion in wildfire prevention funding to the state's $2.5 billion wildfire recovery bill during a simple procedural vote. Meanwhile in Washington, D.C., Democratic and Republican members of Congress overwhelmingly advanced a bipartisan bill to exempt forest management activities from lengthy and costly environmental review.
“Over the last five years, we’ve funded about $2.5 billion in fuel reduction projects. At the same time, we’ve done $25 billion for homelessness programs throughout the state. How many people are now homeless because of these fires?” Gallagher said on the floor. “One billion dollars to save hundreds of billions, and precious lives.”

California is estimated to have 15 million acres of high-risk forest; at a treatment cost of $1,000 per acre, the new funding could have cleared out one million acres of high-risk forest near populated areas and power lines.
 
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California Democrats voted against $1 billion in wildfire prevention funding for the entire state on Thursday.

Republicans in the state legislature attempted to push the funding through a budget amendment that was only considering aid to Los Angeles after the recent wildfire destruction.

The big picture: Assembly Republicans introduced an amendment to Assembly Bill 41X to provide $1 billion in wildfire prevention, which included money for forest management and fuel reduction.

  • The rejected proposal would have amended the $2.5 billion in Los Angeles recovery support that Gov. Gavin Newsom proposed.
  • Republicans argued the $1 billion amendment is needed to prevent disasters such as the situation in the Los Angeles area, which has burned over 40,000 acres and destroyed nearly 18,000 structures.
  • Instead, the Legislature passed Newsom’s $2.5 billion proposal to help with the removal of waste, provide shelters for wildfire victims and to enhance the response to ongoing fires.
 
  • Republicans argued the $1 billion amendment is needed to prevent disasters such as the situation in the Los Angeles area, which has burned over 40,000 acres and destroyed nearly 18,000 structures.
  • Instead, the Legislature passed Newsom’s $2.5 billion proposal to help with the removal of waste, provide shelters for wildfire victims and to enhance the response to ongoing fires.
The R's wanted 1 Billion for fire prevention for the whole state. The D's got 2.5 Billion for waste removal, provide shelters, etc for LA.

The question is: how much of the D's 2.5 Billion will go to fire prevention and how much will go for debris removal and shelters? My guess is that the vast majority, if not all, of the 2.5 will go for shelters and waste removal. More than likely most of the 2.5 B will be eaten up long before any prevention is accomplished and the rest of the state can fend for themselves.

Little or nothing will be done for prevention unless Trump ties relief $$ to prevention measures. Hopefully he doesn't give those CA idiots a lot of $$ with no strings attached.
 
The R's wanted 1 Billion for fire prevention for the whole state. The D's got 2.5 Billion for waste removal, provide shelters, etc for LA.

The question is: how much of the D's 2.5 Billion will go to fire prevention and how much will go for debris removal and shelters? My guess is that the vast majority, if not all, of the 2.5 will go for shelters and waste removal. More than likely most of the 2.5 B will be eaten up long before any prevention is accomplished and the rest of the state can fend for themselves.

Little or nothing will be done for prevention unless Trump ties relief $$ to prevention measures. Hopefully he doesn't give those CA idiots a lot of $$ with no strings attached.
I would hope they would spend a good % on or find other funds for fire prevention-

It was misleading the way it was posted, as if the Republicans offered one billion in addition, and Dems turned it down- looks more like the offer was one billion instead of 2.5 billion.
 
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