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Windows Tablets For Fieldwork

kakarotto,

As you may remember, I am not involved with "sales" stuff, and I further expect that "they" means your sales reps at ALM. So, I'm not sure I have the whole picture with you being forced to purchase upgrades. AFAIK, about the only time we "force" folks to upgrade is if they are using an older product and try to run it on an unsupported (newer) OS - i.e. like when moving from XP to (say) Windows 7 or Windows 8. I'm absolutely certain that Apex sales folks will usually try to persuade people to upgrade to newer versions, and I am told that the licensing for the MobileSketch Module (add-in that lets you read iOS and Android-based MobileSketch files) is an extra cost, but I further understand that most people get it "for free" when upgrading if they just ask/negotiate. I am personally against charging for the add-in, but my sales department insists that it adds a (very) little to the bottom line, so its hard to argue with their approach. That said, if an Apex salesperson has treated you unfairly, I would like to know about it and I will personally see that we reach out to see how to make things right.

FWIW, I hope that you don't give up on your mobile aspirations. If you can wait just a little longer, we'll be releasing a new version which you may find compelling enough to give things another try. Better close for now - this is starting to feel like a "sales pitch" and I'm getting nauseous, LOL.


Regards,


-Randall Garrett-
+Apex Software+

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Just a few misc. pictures...

In an earlier post, I mentioned the $59 HP Rugged Case for the EP 1000. I took a few pictures to help you visualize it.

The first picture is of all the "pieces." There is a two part hard plastic outer shell that snaps closed around the device.. The other major piece is a dense rubber shell that you stretch to envelope the back, sides and a portion of the front bezel. The other pieces are the hand strap and the shoulder strap.

The next picture is of the assembly instructions, sort of diagramming how the pieces go together. in the far right section, it illustrates a plastic "stand" which can be inserted into the mounting holes for the hand strap. I have no use for this and did not take a picture of it, though it is shown in the picture above (center right.)

The final picture is the back of the Rugged Case showing my hand in the rear strap. The mounting spot is such that it can rotate 360 degrees with detents ("Clicky stops", LOL) placed at semi-regular intervals. That is, they seem to be grouped in twos or threes vs. evenly spaced out. I counted 30 different stops using my über accurate method of twisting it by hand ;-) You can see in the lower right section there is a place for the shoulder strap to mount. My arm is obscuring the other mounting spot.

The whole affair adds a little bulk to the device and I first wondered why they designed it to require the hard plastic pieces. After using it a bit, I realized that the hard plastic bits give the dense rubber "surround" a place for its lip to secure to cleanly. I still wish that it was just the rubber... Although it is $20 more, the regular HP Expansion Jacket http://tinyurl.com/pjudo8r offers adequate protection from drops, accepts an optional extra battery and (sans battery) is lighter. It does not, however have a way to attach a strap...

Hope this helps! I'll post similar pictures of the factory cases for the other devices when I can.


-Randall Garrett-
+Apex Software+

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A few more pictures...

These pictures are of the Keyboard Dock for the Fujitsu Q584. I purchased this item direct from the Fujitsu USA on-line store. Regular shipping took about a week, if I remember correctly. Overall, it ran about $225 when I put in one of the numerous "e-Coupon codes" one can find just about anytime by searching on-line

  • The first shot is of the Q584 docked into the Keyboard. As you can see, it is pretty much like most business class keyboards - well made with a complete compliment of keys, etc. The material is brushed aluminum on top and plastic on the bottom with rubber feet.
  • The second shot is from the side, illustrating the maximum angle at which the Tablet can be leaned back without tipping over backward. The amount that devices like this can be leaned back is usually hampered by the fact that unless the Keyboard dock is weighted down by a dummy weight or extra battery, the tablet weight is greater than the keyboard dock. This Keyboard dock does not have an extra battery.
  • The third shot shows the "trick" that the Fujitsu Keyboard has up its sleeve - the "tray" that extends to offset the weight being thrust further back. The mechanism is super easy to operate and I have found it to be a simple yet effective solution that others should imitate. You simply slide the whole affair toward you and the "tray" stays behind due to the rubber feet gripping the surface.
Some might prefer that the keyboard dock have an extra battery, but that adds weight, which is usually the enemy of mobility and this particular Keyboard Dock is much lighter than most. This Tablet has consistently gotten 8 - 10 hours of real world battery life, so the need for an extra battery is greatly diminished. With Tablets like these, I generally have been steering customers who feel the need for more run time on a given day toward car chargers and just leave the "dock" in the car during drive, inspections, etc.

Hope this helps! More pictures when I get time.


-Randall Garrett-
+Apex Software+

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I have been putting off a new tablet for this next round (have a ipad 2 3g and Galaxy Note 8) interested in Surface Pro 3, Thinkpad (whatever tablet) however I really liked my 3g connectivity and it looks like they are not offering 3/4g yet?

I bought the ATT hotspot (in lieu of 3g on ipad) for Galaxy and laptop, but this isn't as fluid as they would have you believe you are constantly typing in password and then asking it to connect. (Two steps, & sometimes doesn't recognize right away and also disconnects after non activity)

What are current / upcoming options for a new generation Win 8.1 tablet with 4g. Att would sell me a Nokia Lumina 2520, although some reviews indicate less powerful processor and shorter battery life.

Thanks, Bob in CO
 
Hi Bob,

The choices for Win8.1+ Tablets with 3G/4G are limited at present. I have used two prototype (pre-production samples) of upcoming devices for just a 2-day period. At present, MOST of our Enterprise type customers are stuck in a "check-in/check-out files" scenario just due to the way that their software works, so it is not a big issue at present. I understand and appreciate your desired scenario, though, as I am a person who prefers the convenience of a tablet with 3G/4G.

I also own a Nokia 2520, which comes with 4G. While I love this device (good battery life, top notch screen, thin, light), I do not believe it is a viable solution for you if you are planning on running any of the available Fee Appraiser Software packages since that device runs Windows RT, not the regular x86/64 version. (We are releasing MobileSketch for Windows RT, but as of today, no current fee appraisal software programs are published for Windows RT.)

If, however, something like the HP ElitePad 1000G2 is sufficient for your needs (Bay Trail CPU, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB storage, etc.), that device IS available with 4G. As I said, there will be a couple of others in this "class" which will be available, but I have no word on real world availability in the US at this time. I expect we'll see them sometime this summer, but who knows. Of course, there are a few other larger, more potent laptop/UltraBooks that offer a 4G option, but the availability of a thin, lightweight (slate) Tablet today is slim pickings.

The issue is that in regular Core iX systems, there is no "SoC" with built-in 4G radio circuitry. Hence, they have to add in a mini-card affair to add this functionality. Usage profiles indicate that even within the "Pads" (i.e. iPad, et al), the sales of 4G devices is low, so engineering this into Tablets like the SP3 is a low priority ATM, especially since "thin is in"... Remember, however, the stated purpose of the SP3 is not to compete with MS's OEM partners, but to offer something different in hopes of "pushing the envelope." There were already a handful of devices in the pipes with 4G before the SP3 announcement, so I expect we'll see a few of them materialize (two for sure?) and I expect to see newer designs from the top players which will (thankfully!) embrace the demise of the silly 16:9 aspect ratio screens and also try to improve sales by adding things MS is not on schedule to have in the SP3. I believe 4G is one of those things, but again the choices will be fewer than those without 4G. I would not be surprised if we saw them from HP, Lenovo and Dell but not from (say) Samsung, Toshiba, Acer, etc. I would not expect major mobo design changes (optimal time to incorporate 4G) until boards with Broadwell fan-less is in production.

Hope this helps! If you know whether something like the EP 1000 would work for you, I can start seeing when I can reveal the other two devices.


Regards,


-Randall Garrett-
+Apex Software+

PS - I am told we've gotten the paperwork for another EP 1000 and the lower priced Pro 610, so hopefully, I can compare/contrast those two shortly, show pix, etc.


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Just a few pictures of another Fujitsu Q584 accessory - the Dock. Pictures taken with my cell phone camera which I usually refer to as "crappy cell phone camera", but actually does a great job. The cameras on recent Nokia cell phones are unquestionably better than any other cell phone camera, bar none, and can for the most part exceed the performance of even upper-moderate pocket cameras! The pictures you see posted here are greatly reduced and compressed by this site, but even so, they are really good quality. You should see the originals...

  • The first picture is of the front and left side. You can see the docking port connector and the alignment pins/latches on the top/center. One the left side is the input for power.
  • The second picture is of the rear and right side. You can see it has (left to right) an Ethernet port, HDMI port, VGA port and 2 USB on the back + one more on the right side.
  • The third picture is the Q584 sitting in the Dock (no other accessories attached.) [Edit] Just noticed that I forgot to close the cover for the power connector (upper right of device.) Sorry for the lack of attention to detail.
Hope this helps. Interest in this and space/time permitting, I'll post pictures of the Dock accessory for the HP EP 1000 (and EP 900), covers, etc. in another post.


-Randall Garrett-
+Apex Software+

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I have been putting off a new tablet for this next round (have a ipad 2 3g and Galaxy Note 8) interested in Surface Pro 3, Thinkpad (whatever tablet) however I really liked my 3g connectivity and it looks like they are not offering 3/4g yet?

I bought the ATT hotspot (in lieu of 3g on ipad) for Galaxy and laptop, but this isn't as fluid as they would have you believe you are constantly typing in password and then asking it to connect. (Two steps, & sometimes doesn't recognize right away and also disconnects after non activity)

What are current / upcoming options for a new generation Win 8.1 tablet with 4g. Att would sell me a Nokia Lumina 2520, although some reviews indicate less powerful processor and shorter battery life.

Thanks, Bob in CO

why pay for a separate data plan that's going to have a data cap? just tether your phone to the tablet via wifi and call it a day. manufacturers charge a huge premium for 4g modems
 
Thats great for once an a while, but a PIA multiple times a day. Requires turning on setting on phone' starting other device, going into setting, picking phone wifi, etc. Not the same as picking up tablet and touching email, and start reading..

It is slightly slower; drops connection at the most important times; burns up phone battery, inconvenient when your talking on the phone (quoting bid, discussing order on web etc). if the phone dies (and it will if tethered allot), you still have the tablet (with it's huge battery). In my case, data's all one pool, no difference what uses it.

For a few reasons.. Other may spend more time in your office than I do/like to (or maybe should), making it less of a need. I consider it the cost of more freedom. Tethering is cool (and it's my backup) but I want more.

Thanks,
Bob in CO
 
Both Bob & kakarotto have valid points and their apparent difference of opinion simply illustrates that some folks rate certain features over others. We have clients which look at this the same way that Bob & kakarotto do and I use both so I can demo and give feedback on both approaches.

Going with a tethering option give you more choices for a new tablet and leaves your phone/data plan in place. The most "worrisome" aspect, as Bob points out, is that in most scenarios, doing "ad hoc" (turn on/off as needed) can be a hassle which is only moderately mitigated by selecting similar/compatible phone/tablet combinations. Leaving a phone in "hot spot" mode can really chew up a battery which can throw off your habits as mist folks have a good feel for their typical phone battery life. With Android phones, one of the more popular phones for "tetherers" is/was the Droid Max due to its extra large battery.

On the other hand, I understand (and personally agree with) Bob's points - except on rare occasions, I always have a tablet with 4G with me as I value the ability to send/receive email, etc. at will without compromising my phones battery life. In fact, I am using one now... With many cellular plans today, adding data via variations on "sharing/family" plans is nit all that expensive and not such a hassle to set up. I happen to use AT&T due to my long association with them and because I have to travel internationally.

Bob, if you'd like to discuss your situation privately, please feel free to PM me with your contact info and we can discuss the various options you have today and in the near future.


Regards,

-Randall Garrett-
+Apex Software+

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Broadwell cometh.

FYI... At this weeks Computex show, Intel once again trotted out a "reference design" tablet showcasing one of their new CPUs - the "Broadwell" class I have mentioned in the past. This CPU is to be known as the "Core M" so I'll start using that moniker from this point forward. I won't go deep into the specs on this CPU at this time and just say that (generally speaking) this chip (and accompanying supporting cast) is a slimmer, more efficient, "next gen" CPU designed for mobile devices. All good stuff!

The importance of the reference design is that it gives various manufacturers a design that they can build off of - much like the leading GPU (video card) manufacturers make a "reference board" that the big players use to make their video cards, relying on teaks and innovations to differentiate their offerings from their competitors. Some of these folks tweak more than others - some go for faster, some go for less heat/noise, etc. A very few use their own designs for the actual "boards" these days. So, you are likely to see the various Tablet manufacturers take this reference design and build systems off of this as a starting point, especially for the Core M-based devices that are first out of the gate (EOY of first of next year?) Some manufacturers have shown Laptops, Ultrabooks and a few "2-in-1's" this week as well without much solid info (yet) on pricing, availability, etc., much less real world performance.

In any case, for those interested, I am linking to a short blurb/article on Intel's "Llama Mountain" devices which were shown. To put things into perspective - sizes, weight, etc. - I reference one Tablet I have used for quite a while - the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 (aka "TPT2") from a couple of years ago. Summarily, this tablet was one of my favorite devices "back in the day" due to it being thin and light, yet able to run most "real Windows" applications. At the time, I commented on the main weakness of it being strapped this (now) 2 generations back "Clover Trail" CPU with only 2 GB of RAM - not a real problem for apps which are optimized for mobile environments - but more of an issue for your regular "bloated" (by comparison) full desktop appraisal software. Today, we're seeing a revision of the superior "Bay Trail" CPUs which handle 4 GB of RAM and the "real" 64-bit OS. The difference in performance on mobile-optimized apps is noticeable, but more so on non-optimized software which really benefits from the extra 2 GB of RAM - "bigger pipes = more throughput." So, this next generation offers the same, just more optimized and the die shrink + optimizations to the microcode and improved cast of supporting characters makes for an even better situation.

So with all this increased miniaturization, we will see thinner, lighter devices and the efficiency gains also allow for weight reduction. With increased efficiency, the same devices can get by with smaller batteries (major source of weight) or conversely, longer run times, brighter screens, whatever, with the same weight. Most likely, we'll see a combination resulting in some increased battery life and a little less weight...

The TPT2 was a 10.1" device that weighed 1.3 lbs. (less than the then current iPad!), had a tested battery life of 10.27 hours (source + extra reading: http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/11/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet-2-review/) and was 0.39" thick. It was remarkable for the day. It is still available at retail today (~$550?) but unless you are running mobile apps, I do not recommend it for residential appraisers - I believe that the newer devices are a better fit and that their better real world performance more than offsets their higher cost.

The 10 inch "Llama Mountain" reference Tablet has specs of 1.2 lbs. and is 0.27" thick. We're generally talking "iPad Air" specs in this regard when you factor in 10.1" vs. 9.7". I would expect we'll see shipping products from various manufacturers which float above and below those specs, depending on the amount of innovation/effort expended and where they place their priorities. FWIW, they also showed a 12." tablet with 2560 x 1440 resolution (16:9 - boo, hiss!) that is only 0.29" thick, weighing 1.48 lbs. Lets hope that more manufacturers take heed of Microsoft's recent move to the superior (for our purposes) 3:2 aspect ratio of the SP3. That is important for real world productivity as well as some ergonomic factors.

[Edit] The SP3, BTW is a mere 0.36" thick, which is also remarkable. I will try to share photos this weekend. Note that, while I loved my all-too-brief exposure to the device, and I expect the SP3 will be a good fit for ME, I am still of the opinion that the Surface line is not currently the best fit for most residential appraisers due to our primary work environment outdoors. With proper accessories, the real world use case might be improved, but until then... Anyway, I urge you not to be mesmerized by "specs" and concentrate on real world factors which lead to increased efficiency. Would I make fun of you ;-) for getting one? No way, but just realize that some devices that I have already covered, and a couple I have yet to discuss just might be better fits for YOUR use cases.

Here is the link to the article I mentioned above, which includes some "press shots" of the device. As in years past, I expect to obtain a reference Tablet for my testing, and since it is already being shown publicly, I would think I'll be allowed to show comparison pictures this time around. That said, these reference devices are strictly that - for reference, not for sale, so the rubber meets the road where actual name brand device manufacturers take this design and product products you can buy. I would not reasonably expect "the real deal" Tablets(excludes the crap that usually comes out fast from "clone" manufacturers) to be available until Q4 at the soonest, more likely Q1, 2015 - these guys have CES, then MWC to go through and "leak"/show their devices to various groups of potential users, influencers, and the like. This likely means we're looking at a few top notch devices starting to have availability in late winter/early spring next year. Article link: https://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/hands-llama-mountain-intels-answer-125219931.html

And another one with "in-hand" shots plus a short video and photos of the "reference keyboard dock." Note that the keyboard dock has even less effort put into it with regard to the things you'd find important in a finished device from a worthy manufacturer - it is just meant to show off the tablet/keyboard connection, etc. Finished devices will be more mainstream with regard to things like backlighting, angled "foldback", ports, etc. http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/03/intel-llama-mountain-prototype/


Hope this helps for now!


-Randall Garrett-
+Apex Software+

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