Class Action For The Theft Of Appraisers’ Data

[TRESinc]

I respond to your posts and you label me a troll....
You respond to eli's and declare that you are providing a "service" to the AF.....

if the shoe fits...

 

[Meandering]

Yup, the intended use was not to fill databases to be used in competition with appraisers.

Sign up!


http://appraisersblogs.com/stolen-appraisers-data-class-action#comment-23253


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[DWiley]

Yes, sign up.... and show the world you did did not know what you have been signing for all these years

 

[TRESinc]

Yes, sign up.... and show the world you did did not know what you have been signing for all these years

you forgot to highlight this part.....

 

[Meandering]

Still does not say use or, resell or, use in competition with, or profit from. Distribution is not use, and the USE is pre-printed.




https://www.copyright.gov/help/FAQ/FAQ-fairuse.html

As much as you like FAQs



Oh, and that's a government website.

Not a legal one.

Overview of Intellectual Property Laws

And that's a college website, not a legal one.



https://www.channeladvisor.com/copyright-and-intellectual-property-infringement-claims-notice/

and that one is for an advisor, or rather, an expert, on the topic.




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[TRESinc]

Still does not say use or, resell or, use in competition with, or profit from. Distribution is not use, and the USE is pre-printed.




https://www.copyright.gov/help/FAQ/FAQ-fairuse.html

As much as you like FAQs



Oh, and that's a government website.

Not a legal one.

Overview of Intellectual Property Laws

And that's a college website, not a legal one.



https://www.channeladvisor.com/copyright-and-intellectual-property-infringement-claims-notice/

and that one is for an advisor, or rather, an expert, on the topic.




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so if what you claim is true why has no one in over 2 decades filed and won a suit? if it is as black and white as you imply it should be easy to win, no?

 

[DWiley]

Someone needs to read all those FAQ, including the one about how copyright does not apply to data.

https://www.copyright.gov/help/FAQ/FAQ-general.html#protect

 

[DWiley]

And, no one has addressed the question I posed yesterday. How is a lender taking data from an appraisal report and using it, possibly with profit, for some other use different from what appraisers do every day with MLS data?? The tunnel vision and emotion on this issue, from people who are supposed to be trained as objective observers, is really sad.

 

[J Grant]

And, no one has addressed the question I posed yesterday. How is a lender taking data from an appraisal report and using it, possibly with profit, for some other use different from what appraisers do every day with MLS data?? The tunnel vision and emotion on this issue, from people who are supposed to be trained as objective observers, is really sad.

I addressed it in my post a few pages back. Re printing the pertinent part below from the post in italics, and added to it..

The difference is, as appraisers we pay the MLS for access, and since we join as an appraiser, they are aware we use MLS data in appraisal reports. I assume they allow us to do that knowing their own self interest is served by appraisers submitting reports which is part of the process for borrowers loan.

If I were to use the MLS data for any other use, such as re selling it to Zilow or other agents or buyers etc, the MLS board would fine me, drop me and possibly litigate about it. I fulfill my agreement with MLS by using their data in appraisals when I join as an appraiser. Were I to join MLS as a RE agent, I'd have a different agreement with them.

 

[Meandering]

I addressed it in my post a few pages back. Re printing the pertinent part below from the post in italics, and added to it..

The difference is, as appraisers we pay the MLS for access, and since we join as an appraiser, they are aware we use MLS data in appraisal reports. I assume they allow us to do that knowing their own self interest is served by appraisers submitting reports which is part of the process for borrowers loan.

If I were to use the MLS data for any other use, such as re selling it to Zilow or other agents or buyers etc, the MLS board would fine me, drop me and possibly litigate about it. I fulfill my agreement with MLS by using their data in appraisals when I join as an appraiser. Were I to join MLS as a RE agent, I'd have a different agreement with them.

Condition and quality are your opinions and intellectual property.

and can't be found in the MLS in UAD format,

Your use of UAD Format provides the vehicle that changes the sales pitch in the MLS to a verified data point, in a uniformed format, which is necessary for computers to use.

Heck our MLS, agents can't even get the tax id number right all the time, or even in the required format almost half of the time.

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