CubiCasa

[Sadie]

I bet these are fine for simple non complex homes. But the larger ones and ones with angles and curves would probably not be the best fit. And if the home is rectangular and non complex, wouldn't it be pretty simple to stretch your tape or shoot your disto as you go? You are walking around the exterior of the home when you can, right?

 

[shrubberyvaluation]

I bet these are fine for simple non complex homes. But the larger ones and ones with angles and curves would probably not be the best fit. And if the home is rectangular and non complex, wouldn't it be pretty simple to stretch your tape or shoot your disto as you go? You are walking around the exterior of the home when you can, right?

And the simple homes its easy enough to just sketch on paper or pad.

 

[Whtwhale]

They sent me a cubi casa on a simple home, 3 rectangles and it screwed it up by thinking a built-in bookshelf that was attached to the wall was a bump in plus it thought a couch + sectional was a bump in as well. I looked into it, you have a certain number of "revisions" that you can ask for and all this is back and forth between you and someone on the other side of the planet. There is 0 reason to use this vs. sketching a home.

 

[RCA]

So Imagine that you have a Portable Printer in your car that can print this Complex sketch on site. I don't know how long that takes to Cubi a house.
Then you print it off and now walk around a take actual exterior measurements and put them on the sketch.

Would that save time? Maybe maybe not. Depends on if you count the time saved

Then again here is what I am thinking. If this is fairly accurate or at least more accurate than a human on complex homes.

For consistency across the board, Why not do this for all residential assignments? Really now you do understand this "NEED FOR SPEED" addiction.

It's an idea probably good for some who are terrible at floorplans. For me, it is much faster to bump that laser off a couple of walls and write the results down on a rough sketch: (1) it always works, and (2) it is as fast as I could get. Although if you had a complex room that was empty, I wouldn't be surprised if CubiCasa might be as fast - but my short experience with iPhone Lidar is that it was a bit slow and not reliable.

Now I will have to say, that going back to the office and inputting the sketch and measurements into Chief Architect Home Designer Pro for a large house with complexities can take time. --- But it always works and I don't have to wait up to 24 hours for a turn-around. Chief Architect can create a DollHouse view - but not as good as the Matterport DollHouse view - which has embedded 3D photos. But as far as measurements go, Matterport isn't any more accurate than CubiCasa - although that probably depends on which Lidar device you use. The Leica BLK3560 G1 is probably very accurate - but costs $18.5K and is very slow on measurements.

The Matterport Pro2 (about $2800 on sale) and Pro3 (about $6K) are 99% accurate. But even the Pro3 takes up to 3 hours to capture the measurements on homes up to 4,000sf, 2-5 hours for homes or buildings 4,000-10,000sf, and 5-8 hours for buildings 10,000-30,000sf.

https://matterport.com/capture-services

https://matterport.com/pro2

https://matterport.com/pro3

"Measurements in Matterport are generally accurate to within 1% of reality under normal operating conditions. Decalibration, abnormal temperatures, and other factors may result in reduced accuracy. For example, in a 10 ft (3 m) long room, measurements can vary within 1.2 in (3 cm) from actual."

So, assuming that you were measuring a 50' interior wall, the interior measurement could be off by +/- 6 inches, - assuming ideal conditions. Then add on the estimated wall thickness - and you can see that the exterior measurements could easily be off +/- 1 foot under ideal conditions. This is NOT ANSI Z765 compliant.

 

[Carnivore]

It's an idea probably good for some who are terrible at floorplans. For me, it is much faster to bump that laser off a couple of walls and write the results down on a rough sketch: (1) it always works, and (2) it is as fast as I could get. Although if you had a complex room that was empty, I wouldn't be surprised if CubiCasa might be as fast - but my short experience with iPhone Lidar is that it was a bit slow and not reliable.

Now I will have to say, that going back to the office and inputting the sketch and measurements into Chief Architect Home Designer Pro for a large house with complexities can take time. --- But it always works and I don't have to wait up to 24 hours for a turn-around. Chief Architect can create a DollHouse view - but not as good as the Matterport DollHouse view - which has embedded 3D photos. But as far as measurements go, Matterport isn't any more accurate than CubiCasa - although that probably depends on which Lidar device you use. The Leica BLK3560 G1 is probably very accurate - but costs $18.5K and is very slow on measurements.

The Matterport Pro2 (about $2800 on sale) and Pro3 (about $6K) are 99% accurate. But even the Pro3 takes up to 3 hours to capture the measurements on homes up to 4,000sf, 2-5 hours for homes or buildings 4,000-10,000sf, and 5-8 hours for buildings 10,000-30,000sf.

https://matterport.com/capture-services

https://matterport.com/pro2

https://matterport.com/pro3

"Measurements in Matterport are generally accurate to within 1% of reality under normal operating conditions. Decalibration, abnormal temperatures, and other factors may result in reduced accuracy. For example, in a 10 ft (3 m) long room, measurements can vary within 1.2 in (3 cm) from actual."

So, assuming that you were measuring a 50' interior wall, the interior measurement could be off by +/- 6 inches, - assuming ideal conditions. Then add on the estimated wall thickness - and you can see that the exterior measurements could easily be off +/- 1 foot under ideal conditions. This is NOT ANSI Z765 compliant.

Desktop Appraisals of all types are not required to be ANSI. Maybe it is but I recall reading that somewhere.

Side Note: I watch Nat G quite a bit. There is this guy who explores mostly South America etc and he goes into large caverns/Caves. He uses Lidar. Lidar is impressive and works very well for him. Well he doesn't need dimensions, but it can give him Volume of the Cave and shows depth, width and length in 3D.

 

[alebrewer]

I think the idea, at this point, is that CubiCasa will be the 'go to' answer for the sketch requirement in desktop assignments. I don't think the intent (at least currently) is to replace appraisers' 'traditional' method of measuring for full inspection assignments.

 

[Carnivore]

I think the idea, at this point, is that CubiCasa will be the 'go to' answer for the sketch requirement in desktop assignments. I don't think the intent (at least currently) is to replace appraisers' 'traditional' method of measuring for full inspection assignments.

If you include Trainee's also, even they are not considered significant assistance.

BUT on Page 304-305 it eludes to Trainees but not quite definitively USPAP Applies to ONLY Appraisers. unless the the Trainee SIGNS the Report.

Trainee assistance can and is often stated in a Report of what they did even though they don't sign to gain experience. Grey area Gymnastics,

 

[alebrewer]

If you include Trainee's also, even they are not considered significant assistance.

BUT on Page 304-305 it eludes to Trainees but not quite definitively USPAP Applies to ONLY Appraisers. unless the the Trainee SIGNS the Report.

Trainee assistance can and is often stated in a Report of what they did even though they don't sign to gain experience. Grey area Gymnastics,

So there's another application out there - RemoteVal - which is geared more, I think, to a 'trainee' role being incorporated into the SOW. With the CubiCasa application - it is driven and performed by one person. With the RemoteVal application, it is driven by the appraiser (at his or her desk), but 'performed' by someone at the site - homeowner, trainee, Realtor, etc.

 

[Sadie]

Desktop Appraisals of all types are not required to be ANSI. Maybe it is but I recall reading that somewhere.

Side Note: I watch Nat G quite a bit. There is this guy who explores mostly South America etc and he goes into large caverns/Caves. He uses Lidar. Lidar is impressive and works very well for him. Well he doesn't need dimensions, but it can give him Volume of the Cave and shows depth, width and length in 3D.

Dest top ARE required to be ANSI compliant which is why I have a problem with them.
Q1 below
https://singlefamily.fanniemae.com/media/30266/display

 

[Sadie]

So there's another application out there - RemoteVal - which is geared more, I think, to a 'trainee' role being incorporated into the SOW. With the CubiCasa application - it is driven and performed by one person. With the RemoteVal application, it is driven by the appraiser (at his or her desk), but 'performed' by someone at the site - homeowner, trainee, Realtor, etc.

If I have to walk someone through a remote measure of their home, it makes more sense and if probably more efficient to actually do the measurement myself.