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Has Anyone Completed A 3.6 Yet

Here is one FB view of the 360uad future. I have not "leaned in" so reserving judgement. :)

"UAD 3.6 is “built for machines.” Good.
Every complaint I hear about the redesigned report is half-right. And the missing half is the part appraisers should be excited about.
“It’s built for machines to read.” True. It’s also the first time in 20 years our reasoning won’t be buried in a General Addendum that reviewers skim. Commentary now sits in the section it supports — discrete, labeled, defensible. Machine-readable isn’t machine-written. The parser can organize your analysis. It can’t manufacture your judgment.
“Nobody should do these for low fees.” Agreed — and the new report is the best ammunition we’ve ever had to make that stick. The scope is visibly bigger and the analysis is now required by the GSEs themselves. That’s a clean, documentable basis to reprice. It’s no longer a $300 form-fill, and the format proves it.
“The profession is going away.” You don’t spend years building a flexible, dynamic report that flexes across every property type and scope of work for a profession you’re retiring. You build that to keep one. We heard the eulogy with HVCC, with AMCs, with Dodd-Frank, with the first AVMs. The appraisers who adapted came out the other side. The ones waiting for the old way to return didn’t.
Let’s be honest — this is going to be hard. Change always is, and a learning curve this steep on top of everything else on our plates is no small thing. But hard and bad are not the same word. This is one of the biggest openings this profession has handed us in a generation, and it’s going to belong to the people who lean into it instead of digging in against it.
Strip away the noise and look at what UAD 3.6 actually rewards: showing your work, support tied to your conclusions, transparent reasoning. It punishes recycled boilerplate and unsupported adjustments — the things that hurt our credibility for years.
That’s not a threat to a competent appraiser. That’s vindication."
If only he taught that in his 3.6 class, I sat through it and he didn’t.
 
I agree, more clicks/mouse moves is more work.

Bottom line: Data point collection/reporting for 3.6 has increased exponentially. Glossing over that fact doesn't help boots on the ground appraisers. What might help, and the reason I'm test driving Aivre, is software that works with a.i. to populate the data points. Without help 3.6 is a ton of work, and multi-units will be a royal pain.
thinking the same thing, multi units will be a pita.
 
thinking the same thing, multi units will be a pita.
It merits a fee raise... subscribing to AIVRE or a similar program costs extra $, (especially if it is a per-report charge.) The time savings they advertise is not accurate, because even if it autopopulates the data points, the appraiser needs to check the data fields. The software imports raw data from MLS or public records, both of which could be wrong. Even though a lot of the data might be good, we never know which parts of it were wrong until we check it.
 
so now we'll be checking AI a constant state of anxiety making sure AI got it right. It's far easier/more accurate probably faster... to input your information than to start checking someone else's information. I can't imagine getting an address knowing full well it's a Queen Ann with about 3500-4000 sqft? Fun huh. Or how about that illegal 3 family? or better yet that single family home with an ADU? the one that needs work... drop down boxes galore... Fun huh? ; ) Because that's all we'll get from lenders as most will go waivers, hybrids etc.
I've already drafted a few business transition letters I will be contemplating and selecting the one I'll be sending to my clients.
 
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"...The appraiser modernization has been going on at Fannie and Freddie for at least several years and is now an executive order. One stop short of being law - but a pretty powerful indicator as to where things are going (or have gone ) . Then people wonder why appraisers balk at one more draining, expensive adaptation - this time to 3.6 - for what end? To be phased out in a year?

I have been busy lately, but each assignment is a nightmare, and staying in the field, even though I have (for now ) good clients, each day in it feels miserable. Additional scrutiny, more ROV, and nearly every assignment is a problem-child property. I would like to appraise for 2 more years, but IDK if I will or if my non-AMC lender clients can withstand the pressure to "adapt" to using an AMC."


Same here. A large portion of my appraisal orders are 4,500-15,000 sf monsters, mostly custom with 'unique architectural features' or on acreage, and even if the fee looks OK at the start, the amount of work to do a competent job on these is significantly higher than the 'cookie cutters'.

And if we concur with the "top down" directive point of view....
....along with both the demand for excessive measurement and the use of non-appraisers to "inspect" and draw floorplans...
...I suddenly had a flash of insight! I wonder who appraised and mis-measured DJT's Trump Tower apartment? Perhaps this "top down" directive reflects the distain DJT has for appraisers and his feeling that your property should be whatever size you imagine it to be for your particular purpose at the time, and appraisers are just in the way. I'll bet centimeters vs inches, and ceiling height and window materials were of no interest whatsoever.

Donald Trump’s Trump Tower penthouse was officially measured at 10,996 square feet, but the Trump Organization listed it on financial statements to lenders and insurers as 30,000 square feet—an overstatement of about 19,000 square feet.
 
Sooooo.... how would the new 3.6 relate to reporting on some gigundo custom built monster-sized property? I shudder to imagine...
 
One more time: The GSE’s will use any bottleneck in appraiser capacity to promote their alternatives to appraisals. They did it during the pandemic and will do it if 3.6 gets bumpy. The Get the Facts PDC campaign across several different media platforms, or this recent press release (see below), should be proof enough that the GSEs are not in the independent appraisers’ corner. It’s about funding loans and funding them fast. We get in the way of fast. If 3.6 adoption gets bumpy, alternatives will shoot through the roof. The table is set.

“Driving Efficiency and Reducing Costs…..​



We also integrate tools across the loan lifecycle to make it easier for lenders to do business with us. Solutions such as LPA Asset and Income Modeler (AIM), Loan Selling Advisor® (LSA®) Automated Collateral Evaluation (ACE), ACE+ PDR (Automated Collateral Evaluation + Property Data Report) and our Income Calculator are improving efficiency, strengthening loan quality outcomes and saving borrowers money at the closing table.

ACE and ACE+PDR have saved borrowers nearly $2.6 billion in appraisal fees since 2017.

 
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One more time: The GSE’s will use any bottleneck in appraiser capacity to promote their alternatives to appraisals. They did it during the pandemic and will do it if 3.6 gets bumpy. The Get the Facts PDC campaign across several different media platforms, or this recent press release (see below), should be proof enough that the GSEs are not in the independent appraisers’ corner. It’s about funding loans and funding them fast. We get in the way of fast. If 3.6 adoption gets bumpy, alternatives will shoot through the roof. The table is set.

“Driving Efficiency and Reducing Costs…..​



We also integrate tools across the loan lifecycle to make it easier for lenders to do business with us. Solutions such as LPA Asset and Income Modeler (AIM), Loan Selling Advisor® (LSA®) Automated Collateral Evaluation (ACE), ACE+ PDR (Automated Collateral Evaluation + Property Data Report) and our Income Calculator are improving efficiency, strengthening loan quality outcomes and saving borrowers money at the closing table.

ACE and ACE+PDR have saved borrowers nearly $2.6 billion in appraisal fees since 2017.”

Sadly, the only way to end all this bull**** is if there is another market crash.
 
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