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Help Needed - State Denying License Upgrade

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Wolfpack229

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Illinois
Hi all,

I'm seeking any advice on who to contact or what I should do with the following;

- I am a trainee who recently completed all of the requirements to obtain my certification, the last of which was/is the 2,500 hour experience requirement. After sending in all of my license application materials, I received a letter from my state regulatory agency which stated my application was being deferred due to the state (IL) not having record of my association with my supervisor and that all of my training hours not would be counted. Fortunately I had kept records of all materials I sent to and received from the state agency which included my application for association with my supervising appraiser. The state, however, states they never received the application and have no record of my affiliation with my supervisor. All documents are sent through mail, not electronically.

- Talks with anyone I have had contact with regarding my license upgrade have gone nowhere. I either get no response or the person I talk to claims they are unable to do anything. I'm at a loss for what to do. After 2.5 years of working towards certification, I'm being told I will have to submit a new log with a new 2,500 hours of experience. I'm afraid an additional 2-2.5 years of being a trainee will not be financially feasible and it is extremely discouraging knowing I have completed all of the necessary steps in obtaining the license upgrade and that a one page form was either not delivered or filed correctly 2 years ago. I have numerous additional documents that show my relationship with my supervisor starting at the same time (appraisals, contract with supervisor, completion of supervisor-trainee course work, etc).

Any advice or guidance is much appreciated.
 

Red Flint

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Michigan
I would write a cordial cover letter and attach all the additional documents showing your supervisor relationship. Highlight the appraisals that show this relationship in the certification(s). Send this via certified mail.

Other approaches are to do a counter visit, reach out to the appraisers on the state board, and consult with an administrative law attorney with experience at the state level.

Good luck, assert your case, and keep it professional.
 

Smiller23

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Connecticut
My two cents would be to get your name on the docket for the monthly meeting to voice your case to the appraisal licensing commission; go directly to the top. The commission members (graciously) make those decisions, they are the people to speak with. I'm not familiar with how IL handles appraiser licensing, but a similar issue happened to me (two supervisors, but only one recorded with the state) and this process was very helpful. Whatever you do, just don't give in, you haven't yet spoken with the right person. Best of luck to you!
 

Cob

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Texas
I would pay an attorney to contact them and see how quickly things will change.
 

USPAP Compliant

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Certified Residential Appraiser
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North Carolina
My two cents would be to get your name on the docket for the monthly meeting to voice your case to the appraisal licensing commission; go directly to the top. The commission members (graciously) make those decisions, they are the people to speak with. I'm not familiar with how IL handles appraiser licensing, but a similar issue happened to me (two supervisors, but only one recorded with the state) and this process was very helpful. Whatever you do, just don't give in, you haven't yet spoken with the right person. Best of luck to you!
Commission members should never speak to license holders about a specific case...especially before the case is heard. Follow protocol and speak with the executive director or commission attorney. You do not want to try and go around the staff. Board members come and go more frequently than staff and they have long memories. In my state, you are SPECIFICALLY prohibited from gaining experience hours until they receive approval of your notification of supervision....which your supervisor should have received as well. Check your commission rules and see what the step by step process from a-z. I suspect you might have screwed up.
 

USPAP Compliant

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North Carolina
I would pay an attorney to contact them and see how quickly things will change.
A state board or commission has no fear of some attorney. The commission is represented by the state Attorney General and there large staff. It is a rare thing for a private attorney to win against the vast resources of the state Attorney general.
 

BarrySW1963

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Texas
Here, we have to pay a fee when filing the form to associate the trainee with the supervisor ... is that the case in your state? If so, do you have record of the payment?
 

TRESinc

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Ohio
let this be a lesson to everyone - whenever sending in anything to the state, and that includes my annual renewals, ALWAYS send it certified mail with a signature required.
 
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WTF? So you needed to establish/document a trainee/supervisory relationship with the state prior to gaining experience? Not like that in WI, unless they changed it. If the fact is that you gained experience under a licensed mentor, I would hope they could see their way to let you fix this. Good luck. What a stupid requirement.
 

BRCJR

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Virginia
Contact your local/district state representative and get them involved.
 
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