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The aftermath of condo fever

The aftermath of condo fever

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B911A8180%2D1B32%2D4577%2DB89D%2D48887F5AC4FF%7D&siteid=

By Amy Hoak, MarketWatch
Last Update: 7:50 PM ET Sep 26, 2006


According to the National Association of Realtors, inventory of existing condos and co-op homes rose to about an 8.6-month supply in August. The national median sales price for the housing type settled at $223,200 in August, down 2.4% from $228,800 a year ago.


"The market is clearly oversupplied in many places," said David Seiders, chief economist for the National Association of Home Builders. "The key symptom of that has been on the price front. Prices have taken a hit."
 
Families flee Florida even as housing prices cool

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06270/725458-30.stm

Families flee Florida even as housing prices cool

Wednesday, September 27, 2006
By Chad Terhune and Rafael Gerena-Morales, The Wall Street Journal
In Florida, school principals, real-estate developers and economic-development officials are scrambling to solve a troubling mystery: Where did the kids go?

Across a state long plagued by shortages of teachers and classrooms, school-enrollment figures show declines or no growth this fall. The Palm Beach County public-school system in south Florida saw its first enrollment drop since 1971 -- a 1.9 percent decline to 170,582 students. Broward County, surrounding Fort Lauderdale, lost 3.1 percent of its students. Growth in Orlando and Tampa has slowed to roughly half its previous rate. Overall, the number of students in Florida public schools now is expected to grow by just 30,000 students to 2.67 million, well below recent annual increases of about 65,000.

The reason: School officials say that even though it has cooled in recent weeks, Florida's overheated housing market -- with the median existing-home price up 90 percent since 2001 to $248,400 in August -- is pricing young families out of the state.

Ranking fourth in population among states, Florida remains one of the fastest-growing places in the country, adding an average of 1,000 new residents a day to its total of 18.3 million. But the state's tried-and-true formula of plentiful jobs, abundant sunshine and low taxes suddenly isn't enough to hold onto thousands of families as real-estate speculators and empty nesters are snapping up property, shrinking the supply of affordable homes for newcomers who traditionally pumped up school enrollment. And, despite being spared so far this year, there are signs of growing weariness following eight hurricanes that plowed into the Sunshine State in 2004 and 2005, causing insurance rates to skyrocket and some residents to move away before the next big storm hits.

Last November, Kevin and Christy Kilpatrick left Plantation, near Fort Lauderdale, for rural Lawrenceburg, Tenn., to escape south Florida's escalating living costs, congestion and hurricanes. In October, Hurricane Wilma knocked out their power and water for more than three weeks; the next month, they bought their four-bedroom Tennessee house on 10 acres for about $280,000 -- a steal compared with Florida real estate.

"We knew we couldn't afford to get what we wanted down there," says Mr. Kilpatrick, a 37-year-old voice-over artist. He and his wife plan to have children and decided "this would be a better quality of life for our kids."

While school officials say a pause in the state's breakneck enrollment growth will help them to catch their breaths after years of frenzied teacher hiring and building expansion, economic-development officials are concerned that businesses will be deterred from moving to or expanding in Florida because of high home prices and not enough workers.

Some Florida officials, though, insist that the surprising slowdown is a temporary blip, with school-enrollment growth in Florida poised to accelerate later this decade because of rising births and immigration throughout the U.S. In addition, the weakened housing market, including a 34 percent decline last month in sales of existing single-family homes in Florida compared with a year earlier, could bring some relief to families suffering from sticker shock. Florida is home to four of the 10 most-overvalued housing markets in the U.S., according to economic consulting firm Global Insight Inc. of Waltham, Mass., and National City Corp., a Cleveland bank.

"We will see the affordability of housing in Florida improve," said David Denslow, an economics professor at the University of Florida. "Much of Florida is still cheaper than New York, Boston, California and other areas."

Still, what's happening in Florida schools contrasts sharply with school districts in other U.S. metropolitan areas that have robust population growth. This fall, enrollment in the Wake County, N.C., public-school system, including Raleigh, rose 6 percent, or 7,388 students, to 127,767. School growth rates are holding steady in Las Vegas and surrounding Clark County, the country's fifth-largest school district. And enrollment in the suburban Atlanta district of Gwinnett County, Ga., increased by 5.1 percent to 151,903 students.

In Tampa, Shari Beaubien, principal at Chiles Elementary blames her school's 10 percent enrollment dip -- about 90 fewer students -- on the conversion of four nearby apartment buildings to upscale condominiums. That pushed out many young families, and few newcomers have moved in. When the principal called the property managers last month, she was told 515 units were empty.

When two apartment complexes in West Palm Beach for residents on public assistance became condos, enrollment at the nearest elementary school dropped by about 100 students, Palm Beach County Schools demographer Art Wittman says. In all, more than 12,000 rental units have gone condo, with a third of local housing now owned by investors or second-home buyers who don't have school-age children, he estimates. Last year, the number of Floridians between 4 and 19 years old rose 1 percent from a year earlier, its tiniest growth since 1991, according to Moody's Economy.com, a West Chester, Pa., research firm.

"In some new-home neighborhoods in Florida, there are more 'for sale' or 'for rent' signs than there are drapes in the windows," adds Jack McCabe, a real-estate consultant in Deerfield Beach, Fla.

More empty nesters and other property owners without school-age children isn't necessarily bad for local school districts and municipalities, which get to collect their property taxes without having to take in additional students. Economists note the longer-term concern is that these homeowners often don't support increased school spending and frequently oppose tax increases for education at the polls.

Debbie Terry, director of instructional staffing and recruitment for the Collier County school system in Naples, says the district is suffering a "double whammy" from steep real-estate prices. About 25 new teachers hired this summer later rescinded their contracts because they felt home prices in Naples were too high. Meanwhile, a growing number of more-experienced teachers have been selling their homes to lock in big profits made during the boom -- and then moving to less-expensive places like south Georgia. Collier County enrollment was essentially flat at 43,076 this school year.

Despite recent housing-price declines, including August decreases in 12 of 20 metro areas tracked by the Florida Association of Realtors, economic-development officials worry that real-estate costs remain high enough to make it hard for at least some employers to recruit workers and expand their businesses. Florida generally is a low-wage state due to its reliance on service jobs, particularly in tourism. Another area of concern is the slowing growth of Floridians between 25 and 59. That primary labor pool is expected to constitute 45.7 percent of Florida's population in 2010, down from 46.7 percent in 2000.

For schools across Florida, the consequences of declining or flat enrollment are immediate. Since state funding is based on student levels, local administrators are being forced to cut expenses and reassign teachers to different schools. No major layoffs are expected, though, because most school districts start the academic year with dozens of teaching vacancies that can now be eliminated. In Tampa, the enrollment drop cost Chiles Elementary three teachers. The Parent Teacher Association donated money to keep a secretary in the media center after that position was eliminated.

The unexpected changes are forcing some districts to reconsider building plans and proposals for additional taxes to pay for new schools. Palm Beach officials, for example, have postponed construction of two schools that are part of a five-year plan, Mr. Wittman says.
 
Pam, your article speaks to a classic reallocation of resources. Population is a resource as is capital, and both will seek a favorable advantage where ever that may be.
 
Super-luxury homes go on the market for $100 million and more
9/29/2006 2:35:03 PM

By JESSICA GRESKO
Associated Press Writer

Donald Trump's property for sale here has all the big-time extras one might expect. Pricey marble and 24-karat gold fixtures decorate bathrooms. There's a gargantuan fountain in the driveway and 475 feet of oceanfront out back.

Perhaps the biggest thing about the home, however, is its price tag: $125 million. And (sorry Donald) that price has already been trumped. A home in Aspen, Colo., is now listed at $135 million. Another home in Lake Tahoe, Nev., was recently listed at a flat $100 million.

The listings represent a monetary milestone in American real estate: the first time U.S. homes have broken into a whopping nine figures, according to real estate experts, and they've done so in quick succession. A May survey of the nation's most expensive homes by Forbes.com put Trump's home at the most expensive and the first to break the $100 million mark. At the time, the next highest listing was a $75 million estate in Bridgehampton, N.Y.

http://www.wallst.net/news/news.asp?Source=APNEWS&id=34787
 
Endangered CA condo

Randolph Kinney said:
The aftermath of condo fever

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B911A8180%2D1B32%2D4577%2DB89D%2D48887F5AC4FF%7D&siteid=

By Amy Hoak, MarketWatch
Last Update: 7:50 PM ET Sep 26, 2006


According to the National Association of Realtors, inventory of existing condos and co-op homes rose to about an 8.6-month supply in August. The national median sales price for the housing type settled at $223,200 in August, down 2.4% from $228,800 a year ago.


"The market is clearly oversupplied in many places," said David Seiders, chief economist for the National Association of Home Builders. "The key symptom of that has been on the price front. Prices have taken a hit."
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Never did understand why[ even with a huge amount of condo data];
condo prices almost always tend to drop much more sharply than homes.

Simply accepted it as fact;
reguardlress,guess the condo buyers/sellers like it more than rent .

bankrate.com had another interesting article about condo cancels in Nevada.

And your link or mine mentioned condos are doing better in TX;
and while TV show flip that house had a neat ''projected profits'' on a condo, would like to see the actual profits or loss.
 
Regulated Financing Wind Means Falling Prices For California

Lenders gone wild

Can U.S. curb the 'exotic mortgages' frenzy that puts homeowners at risk?

By Rex Nutting, MarketWatch
Last Update: 7:41 PM ET Sep 29, 2006



WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- More than a year after Alan Greenspan warned of the "potential for individual disaster" from a new breed of mortgages that were helping to fuel the housing boom, federal regulators finally are trying to do something about it.

On Friday, in a jointly crafted message on so-called exotic mortgages, multiple government agencies warned banks in strong terms to make sure borrowers can pay back the full amount of what they borrow and that homeowners know that a low monthly payment today could be shockingly high later.

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About one-third of the mortgages sold in the last year were devised to minimize the initial monthly payment to make it seem as if buyers could afford a more expensive home.

Banking industry officials are quick to defend exotic mortgages as financial innovations that have enabled more people to be homeowners even when prices were soaring.

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The housing credit bubble led to the growth of exotic loans, which, in a vicious spiral, drove prices even higher, said one observer. In a bubble, "the financing gets progressively worse. At the end, you get nuttiness," said Dean Baker, an economist for the Center for Economic and Policy Research, a Washington think tank.

Finally, prices got so high that "the only way people could buy houses was by bending the rules," said Baker, who's been warning about the real-estate bubble for years.

In the Orwellian parlance of the mortgage industry, loans that ignore the true ability of the borrower to pay for the loan are called "affordability" products.

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And most of such loans sold in the subprime market have large prepayment penalties that make it expensive to refinance.

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As long as house prices are rising and interest rates stay low, borrowers can always refinance an exotic mortgage when the interest rate resets. But now, with housing prices flattening out, many buyers will find they don't have enough equity in their homes to refinance, and it may be difficult to find someone who's willing to take the house off their hands at the inflated price they paid. Their only option could be foreclosure.

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In a sense, the new federal guidelines overlook the biggest part of the problem. The majority of residential mortgages are no longer originated in federal and state regulated savings and loans, but by mortgage brokers and state licensed lenders, according to Felecia Rotellini, an Arizona state official who represents the Conference of State Bank Supervisors.

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By contrast, Baker says, the Fed wasn't shy about extending its authority into a new realm when needed to protect investors, such as the stock market crash of 1987 or the hedge-fund collapse in 1998.

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Once upon a time, mortgage lending was as staid a business as you could find. Bankers offered 30-year fixed mortgages to borrowers who had a 20% down payment and sufficient income to make the monthly payments. They would reject any loan that required a payment more than 29% of a buyers' gross income or that would result in total debt service higher than 36% of gross income.

Those stringent standards kept a third of American families renting. Gradually, the industry began offering mortgages to families that didn't previously qualify. Adjustable-rate loans, balloon loans, second mortgages and other innovations allowed more people to buy. Today, a near-record 68.7% of U.S. homes are owner-occupied, up from 63% in the early 1960s.

Since 2000, the pace of change has intensified, contributing to an unprecedented housing boom. First, the growth of the secondary mortgage-backed securities market has meant that the risks of default or prepayment are being shunted away from the lender to others, such as pension funds or hedge funds, where potential losses are of no concern to federal banking supervisors.

Second, the subprime market has exploded, rising from under 9% of the market in 2003 to more than 20% today.

Third, competitive pressures have driven even the stodgiest and most conservative bankers into the embrace of exotic mortgages. The top lenders for interest-only loans include such old-line companies as Wells Fargo, Lehman Bros., Citigroup and Bank of America.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7BD65CBE06%2D491D%2D437F%2DB9F8%2D851F37D54B39%7D&siteid=mktw
 
Randolph Kinney said:
http://www.zillow.com/search/Search.htm?mode=browse

Pretty cool map, however, it does not mean accuracy but it does show comparative scale of pricing on a square foot basis.

Be sure and click the check box for show heat map.

You can pan and zoom to areas of interest.

The Missouri figures may be influenced by Kansas City and St. Louis... the only two places in the state where data is readily availalbe to Zillow.
 
Steve Owen said:
The Missouri figures may be influenced by Kansas City and St. Louis... the only two places in the state where data is readily availalbe to Zillow.
St. Louis looks pretty cheap Steve, time for people in California to sell out and move to where you are.:flowers:
 
Randolph Kinney said:
St. Louis looks pretty cheap Steve, time for people in California to sell out and move to where you are.:flowers:

I'm about as far as you can get from St. Louis and still be in the same state. And... it's a lot cheaper to buy a house here than either St. Louis or Kansas City.
 
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