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I'm not surprised..

the bank does not pay a hard cost (typically ) to the AMC
The pass thru may net zero the lender, but the lender still has to order the appraisal (so it still costs them money to operate)...and they do pay for the appraisal when it is REO. Further, the bank and AMC may settle on a set price and if a regulated bank, they are supposed to collect the appraisal fee UP FRONT from the borrower. I think @BRCJR can weigh in on that, but at least my bank says they collect the fee up front. How it shows on the closing statement is a different matter. In one bank instance I know from years ago, the AMC offered to provide appraisals for a set fee of $385 (back when the typical fee was $325) so they netted $60 per report but the bank rejected the offer because their internal costs were under $40 per report.
 
Just FYI for those interested in the fee split models employed by AMC's. There are, generally speaking, two models - a flat fee model and a dynamic fee model (although I'm sure there are other monikers for those models). Under a flat fee model, the AMC charges a 'flat fee' to the lender for the provision of the AMC services. There is no set fee has to be negotiated, but I've typically seen it between ~ $100 and $150 depending on the AMC's overhead. It's the dynamic fee model that, it seems to me, causes appraisers the greatest angst. This is a model where the AMC is incentivized to find the 'lowest cost provider' as the AMC is then able to maximize their fee. Per esempio: AMC charges bank $600 for the appraisal. Under the 'flat fee' model, there is no incentive to use low fee appraisal providers as the AMC margin is fixed (at say $150). $450 goes to the appraiser, $150 goes to the AMC. Unlike the dynamic margin model - used by most of the bigger culprits - wherein if the AMC is able to find an appraiser willing to do the service for $200, they pocket $400. Both models are legal - one model is, however, immoral (IMO).
 
Give me Joan Trice alias. I will do a post and @sign to her alias name.

I know I can be a bad boy. You don't have to tell me.

I can't remember her alias name.

I may even do a thread dedicated to her and copy the OP on it.
 
I will say thanks a bunch Ms. Joan.
 
When we will as appraisers realize how bad we are being taken advantage of. View attachment 90488
Can you give me the link on this? I will send it to Chopra with CFPB and FTC and Joan.

I don't know what type of position you are in. I don't want to jeopardize your position.

If you could just send a public link, I could make an impression.

Or just say search this.
 
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Can you give me the link on this? I will send it to Chopra with CFPB and FTC and Joan.

I don't know what type of position you are in. I don't want to jeopardize your position.

If you could just send a public link, I could make an impression.

Or just say search this.
The CFPB might go after AMCs. But that will probably have minimal if any impact on the appraiser's fee
 
the thief only comes to steal , kill , and destroy
 
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Back when I worked on staff at the commerical bank my salary was a fraction of my billings. Typically in the 30-35% range. They avoided showing a profit on the difference via their accounting.

If you're working on staff you don't want to come into the office to find out the dept is only getting in 2 appraisal assignments that week. Because that means everyone else is sitting around with literally nothing to do. 3 weeks of that resulted in 2/3 of us getting laid off. Including me.
 
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I could google it if I knew where to find it. I don't know how to google it.
 
It almost seems like OP is staff appraiser. Or possibly AMC staff.

I don't know where I can find a public link that I could email CFPB and give comments after I proof read 10 times before I hit send.

I am definitely on their email list. They email constantly because I have emailed them a couple of times.
 
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