Phil Crawford Podcast

[Bobby Bucks]

I turned it off when it reached the part where he was insulting George Hatch. No one in this business agrees with others 100% of the time and disagreeing should be done civilly. I’ve been reading George’s posts for 25 years and he as pro independent appraiser as anyone and is one of the most competent and knowledgeable appraisers in existence. Crawford is spot on most issues, but IMO he owes GH an apology.

 

[bluechip]

Consider the source!

I'm considering the fact that you are hidden behind a shroud of anonymity and that the antisemitism vibe is strong here. I found something out in life. Easy to be tough behind the keyboard.

 

[J Grant]

I am thinking Crawford may be Jewish. I have a feeling he has a bunch of money.

WTF?
Usually you just ramble like some kind of zombie I didn't take my meds presence, but you are out of your league in this one.

I am Jewish, and IDK if Phil is or not, but I suspect he is not - in any event, I don't have a bunch of money either.

 

[KHS445]

I'm considering the fact that you are hidden behind a shroud of anonymity and that the antisemitism vibe is strong here. I found something out in life. Easy to be tough behind the keyboard.

I believe you misinterpreted my comment. I was referring to the original source (Zoe).

 

[bluechip]

I believe you misinterpreted my comment. I was referring to the original source (Zoe).

Then color me wrong. My apologies. The comment that Zoe made was 100% unacceptable.

 

[George Hatch]

He's breadcrumbing his facts again.

@6:27



All I did was add more details to the information that he selectively metered out in his analysis. If credible is credible then how is it even possible to discredit it by adding more factual data - about those sales - to the mix?

Logic fail.

 

[George Hatch]

Also, the allegation which he keeps repeating is that I doxxed his address and his family. IIRC he was previously talking about his wife and kids.



Since he has alleged it, I have been asking if anyone knows if his property is anywhere on that map; and to date nobody seems to know. I still don't know what property on that map, if any, belongs to him.

Now @ 5:35 in the vid he's pivoting to the "doxxing" the property in question and citing the Confidentality section of the ETHICS RULE, which applies when an appraiser is acting as an appraiser (not an opinion-pundit in a podcast or on a forum) in conjunction with their workproduct in an assignment. (which, if there's no client then there's no assignment). Moreover, the concept of confidentiality applies to information that is not available outside of the appraiser's work, not public record info or MLS listing info that Zillow picks up. Information isn't automatically a secret just because an appraiser is using it. That's basic, so I don't even understand why he would attempt to run that line by appraisers who have been instructed otherwise over the years.

Now I've lost track of how many properties which have been involved in various controversies that we have picked up on this forum and looked deeper into those situations to see what there is to see. AFAICT there's nothing special about this example compared to those, and I don't see what reasoning it would take to square that particular pretzel logic.

Lastly, he's apparently been at this podcast thing and selling stuff to appraisers for many years. (which I do neither). I don't know what the ROI is on whatever time/effort he's putting into producing a 30-min podcast, but I *assume* his primary motivation for doing so isn't the $15.95 that Youtube is going to pay him for 800 views on that last one. My guess is that he's doing it for love of the game, so to speak; and not for the $15.95. He's advocating what he thinks and what he believes. Same as everyone on this forum does. That's a sentiment I can understand quite well. I just wish he was logical enough to recognize the same when other people do it. I've been running my mouth on this forum - for free - since before he took his first Appraisal 101 course down at the mall.

 

[Surf Cat]

All I did was add more details to the information that he selectively metered out in his analysis. If credible is credible then how is it even possible to discredit it by adding more factual data - about those sales - to the mix?

All Phil had to do was participate in the thread and a lot of issues and or speculation would have been resolved.

He took the low road and aired it out on his show instead of communicating with actual, boots on the ground appraisers. So in essence, his "voice of the appraiser" moniker is disingenuous.

 

[George Hatch]

He has been working the Data Cancer thing for some time, that being an opinion that many other appraisers share. Whatever "discredit" he thinks has occurred only involves the one analysis; the one example. And even that would not have occurred if he had picked a different example with less hair on it. For all I know that cookie might have been unduly juiced by the waiver and the $130k of the borrower's own cash that was used. But if so, it's not obvious in this particular example what effect and how much effect goes to the waiver vs the specific location.

Nothing that's happened so far has proven/disproven the primary talking point he's been advocating. I don't have an opinion on it one way or the other. We've got participants here who specialize in conventional SFR appraising and a couple of them have said they've seen lots of examples. If someone would share a couple examples that are cleaner that this example then I'm very interested in seeing what there is to see.

But whatever other examples we see that might prove the point, they still won't make this one a persuasive example of the allegation. Not because of PCs work on it, but because of the atypical location factor relative to the other sales.

 

[Dublin ohio]

Since he has alleged it, I have been asking if anyone knows if his property is anywhere on that map; and to date nobody seems to know.

All I can say is that he does not own a property under his name in that subdivision. Which was easily discovered with a simple google search that I did not in relation to this or the previous thread. But he does own one in close proximity to that subdivision.