Suspensions And Revocations

[Bill Rose]

Typical state agency. Making up rules as they go. That's a rank amateur charge and I'd take it to a real court instead of the kangaroo court.

 

[Bob Ipock]

Summary: Licensee violated the governing law and the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice ("USPAP") in the course of performing 44 appraisals for a particular client in a 1-month period. "The most important mistake committed by the Respondent was her poor choice in accepting the assignment in the first place both because several of the properties were of a complex nature and therefore outside the scope of her basic appraiser's license and also the number of properties to be appraised in one month was grossly excessive." See the Decision and Order for a detailed discussion of the violations found.

It DOES NOT say that her offense was doing 44 appraisals. It said that the appraiser violated USPAP....IN THE COURSE OF PERFORMING 44 APPRAISALS FOR A PARTICULAR CLIENT IN A ONE MONTH PERIOD. This appraiser might have done 100 that month...who knows, all this says is that 44 were done for a single client...and that was NOT the offense.

It goes on to say that some were complex properties and OUTSIDE THE SCOPE of her license.

Therse summaries do not give a lot of details. If you want the whole story call the appraisal board and ask.

 

[Bill Rose]

"..and also grossly excessive....."

 

[Otis Key]

Originally posted by Bill Rose@Feb 4 2005, 10:48 AM
"..and also grossly excessive....."

And I do believe that once you add in the full text and intent of the ruling that it falls into perspective as it should rather than just a "selectively chosen snippet" here and there to make YOUR point.

"The most important mistake committed by the Respondent was her poor choice in accepting the assignment in the first place both because several of the properties were of a complex nature and therefore outside the scope of her basic appraiser's license and also the number of properties to be appraised in one month was grossly excessive."

The full text of the ruling makes it clear that it was the acceptance of work outside the area of experience and competency.

 

[George Hatch]

When we're talking about comments concerning "grossly excessive" volume, it would probably be smart to remember that what's possible in one area may not functionally be possible in another area. In my area (San Diego County), we have lots of high-quality data and a number of different sources for that data. The geography and the development patterns make it relatively easy to do multiple assignments in a short period of time. This is not uniformly so across the nation. Because of the varying degrees of data availability and the geography involved, there are a lot of areas where the potential output for an individual appraiser who is doing the same quality of work might be less than 1/3 of what is possible in a high-density, data-rich metro environment.


Who knows? Maybe the state appraisal board for Maine has appraisers who are geographically competent to develop such opinions about what is and isn't excessive for a relative newby. Speaking personally, I think judgements about the individual rather than the workproduct are difficult to substantiate. Then again, a state appraisal board's function is not exactly the same as that of a review appraiser. There are some similarities and there are some differences.

 

[Bill Rose]

Good points, George.

 

[Preston Holtzendorff]

Ok, here it is....The fact that 44 were performed wasn't the real issue here. The bigger picture was the fact that most of these properties were in wetlands, had gravel (whick is income producing), and weren't researched correctly as far as the deed reference info. The MB's were also inflating values alomg with the appraiser...go figure? The MB and company left her high and dry, but guess what??

She now works for the very same mortgage company that she got in trouble with. I guess they felt guilty or something. She's now a mb, but I have run into 3 ppl in the past 4 months who claim that she has appraised their homes recently. Not a single person would give me a copy, or tell me what bank they went through. DAMN!!

 

[Francois K. Gregoire]

Originally posted by Bill Rose@Feb 3 2005, 11:39 PM
Typical state agency. Making up rules as they go. That's a rank amateur charge and I'd take it to a real court instead of the kangaroo court.

Dear Sir,

Just how many states' agencies are you familiar with? Is your statement to be construed as an indictment against all? Not sure about your Great State, but few I'm aware of permit an agency to make rules up as they go along. In my my experience, rule making is a fairly rigid, tedious process.

Maybe you will be so kind as to provide an example or two to illustrate your assertion?

FWIW, in some states the Respondent must run the gamut of Administrative Procedure before taking their case to what you refer to as a "real" court.

 

[Bill Rose]

Yes numerous examples. I'll send yu a list.k I'm referring to ad hoc interpretations.

 

[Stone]

Bill - Why don't you post that list here? There are others who would likely be interested since you brought it up.