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juliekt

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I've been working under my sponsor for a few months. I'm trying to get my logs organized and I have a few questions. I called TALCB, and they only thing they told me was, "Your sponsor should know these questions" then quickly got off the phone. This is my sponsor's first time having a trainee so we're both new with this.

For the first couple months my sponsor and I were doing the same reports at the same time, then I would compare mine to hers. Would this be labeled as A applicant, S supervisor, or R review (or a combination)?

Since I wasn't contributing to the real reports, how do I prove that I worked those hours in case it gets audited?
 

Mike Kennedy

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"Your supervisor is responsible to the Board and to the public for your conduct while acting under your Appraiser Trainee’s license and is required to sign all of your appraisal reports."

https://www.talcb.texas.gov/potential-license-holder/finding-sponsor

your "I wasn't contributing to the real reports" reports comment above caught my eye.

Given the above: IF none of YOUR reports were actually forwarded to the CLIENTS - then you MIGHT wish to foward your valid question in writing to the Appraisal Board. Supervisory Appraisers are also required to follow the regulations governing THEIR actions as "Supervisors" not only your actions. Result may be your evidently "practice reports" MAY still qualify you, if signed by the supervisor for your license. Or not.

Suggest reading thru the appraiser licensing and supervisor responsibility info in the regulations. If no luck - ask the Board as a "hypothetical question".
 
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Appraiser Trainee to Licensed Residential Appraiser
Additional Education Requirements:
An Associate's Degree or higher OR Thirty (30) semester credit hours from an accredited college or university AND
75 hours required to upgrade in addition to the 75 hours required for an Appraiser TraineeResidential Market Analysis and Highest and Best Use (15 hours)
Residential Appraiser Site Valuation and Cost Approach (15 hours)
Residential Sales Comparison and Income Approaches (30 hours)
Residential Report Writing and Case Studies (15 hours)
You must also submit proof that you have completed the 15-Hour National USPAP course after February 1, 2002
Experience Requirements:
Provide 2,000 hours of acceptable and verifiable appraisal experience acquired over a minimum of 12 months (1 year). Experience may be acquired anytime during the appraiser's career when that person had legal authority to perform real estate appraisals. Appraisals must comply with USPAP.
 

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ALSO SEE THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD'S WEBSITE

How can I determine whether my appraisal experience qualifies as acceptable real estate appraisal experience hours?
How can I determine whether my appraisal experience qualifies as acceptable real estate appraisal experience hours?

TALCB does not preview whether or not your real estate appraisal experience will qualify as acceptable experience hours for a particular license.

You can review Texas Occupations Code (Chapter 1103, Subchapter E, Sections 1103.201-1103.213) and TALCB rules (22 Tex. Admin. Code §153.15) to assist you determining the adequacy of an appraisal or appraisal report. You can also have your work previewed by another appraiser, mentor or USPAP instructor.
 

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http://www.texas-statutes.com/occupations-code/chapter-1103-real-estate-appraisers

  1. Sec. 1103.205. FULFILLMENT OF EXPERIENCE REQUIREMENTS. (a) Except as provided by Section 1103.208, this chapter does not limit the amount of time in which an applicant for a certificate or license is required to satisfy the experience requirements under this subchapter.
  2. (b) An applicant for a certificate or license must provide an affidavit on a form prescribed by the board stating that the applicant has the required number of hours of experience in performing appraisals as recognized by the Appraiser Qualifications Board.
  3. (c) For the purpose of determining the qualifications of an applicant for a certificate or license under this chapter, acceptable appraisal experience includes:
    1. (1) any one or any combination of the categories recognized by the Appraiser Qualifications Board; and
    2. (2) experience as a real estate lending officer of a financial institution or as a real estate broker that includes the actual performance or technical review of real estate appraisals.
  4. (d) For purposes of this subchapter, an hour of experience means 60 minutes spent in one or more of the acceptable areas of appraisal experience recognized under this subchapter. Calculation of the hours of experience must be based solely on actual hours of experience.
    Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1421, Sec. 2, eff. June 1, 2003.
    Amended by:
    Acts 2005, 79th Leg., Ch. 703 (S.B. 381), Sec. 9, eff. September 1, 2005.
  1. Sec. 1103.206. VERIFICATION OF EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE. (a) The board shall adopt a reliable method to verify the evidence of education submitted by an applicant for a certificate or license.
  2. (b) The board shall adopt a reliable method to verify the evidence of appraisal experience submitted by an applicant for a certificate or license. The method must include the review of appraisal experience of all applicants for certification and must rely on appropriate sampling techniques that are applied to not more than five percent of the license applications received by the board. An applicant whose application is selected for verification has at least 60 days after the date of selection to prepare any records requested by the board. The board may not require the applicant to provide more information than the information the board may obtain under Section 1103.207.
    Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1421, Sec. 2, eff. June 1, 2003.
    Amended by:
    Acts 2011, 82nd Leg., R.S., Ch. 131 (H.B. 2375), Sec. 10, eff. May 27, 2011.
    1. Sec. 1103.207. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM CERTAIN APPLICANTS. (a) In addition to the information or documentation specified by this subchapter, the board may obtain other information or documentation from an applicant for a certificate or license under this chapter if the board determines that:
      1. (1) a consumer complaint or peer complaint against the applicant alleging fraud, incompetency, or malpractice is reasonable; or
      2. (2) other just cause exists for requiring further information.
    2. (b) The board may obtain the additional information or documentation by:
      1. (1) requiring the applicant to complete a form prescribed by the board that includes a detailed listing of the applicant's appraisal experience and states for each appraisal claimed by the applicant:
        1. (A) the municipality or county in which the appraisal was performed;
        2. (B) the type and description of the building or property appraised;
        3. (C) the approach to value used in the appraisal;
        4. (D) the actual number of hours spent on the appraisal; and
        5. (E) any other information determined appropriate by the board; or
      2. (2) engaging in other investigative research determined appropriate by the board.
      Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1421, Sec. 2, eff. June 1, 2003.
 

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AND IMPORTANTLY>>>>

  1. Sec. 1103.354. APPRAISER TRAINEE REPORTS. (a) An appraiser trainee approved by the board may perform an appraisal under the direction of a sponsor or authorized supervisor of the trainee.
  2. (b) The sponsor or authorized supervisor shall sign each report prepared by the appraiser trainee performing an appraisal under the direction of the sponsor or authorized supervisor. The sponsor or authorized supervisor is responsible to the public and to the board for the appraiser trainee's conduct.
  3. (c) An appraiser trainee may co-sign a report prepared under this section.
    Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1421, Sec. 2, eff. June 1, 2003.
    Amended by:
    Acts 2005, 79th Leg., Ch. 703 (S.B. 381), Sec. 19, eff. September 1, 2005.
 

juliekt

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Thank you, Mike for your information! You've shown me more than I've found searching myself.

I guess I was under the impression that I could get hours practicing on my supervisor's reports to work up to writing them myself. I blame myself for not researching more.
 

juliekt

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On reports that I'm not signing (When the lender/client won't allow it), is it enough to mention my significant experience in the Additional Comments section (pg 3) of the report? Do they instead want it on a certain addendum?
 
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