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togatour said:
Well I am glad to hear that this morning's pardons have been addressed numerous times before...then maybe I just missed those discussions. They probably did occur as this wall all predictable by the left....we will accuse you of doing what we actually do.

Your our in the minority JG, not because you are a bad person, not because you are not smart, not because your beliefs are without any merit BUT because you do exactly what you accuse conservatives of doing....that is blindly following the correct Democrats in power because they support some of your beliefs. You excuse everything else, then accuse me of doing that.
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The pardons were considered necessary because Trump has stated that he would be indicting the J6 committee, Fauci, et al for the severe crime of disagreeing with him. They did nothing wrong, but Trump wants to procecute them. Go after his political enemies. He has also stated he wants to indict everyone who testified against him.

While in the end, no one would go to jail, but a huge part of their lives and money would be tied up in court actions, because that is the way Trump works.
 
Sadie said:
The pardons were considered necessary because Trump has stated that he would be indicting the J6 committee, Fauci, et al for the severe crime of disagreeing with him. They did nothing wrong, but Trump wants to procecute them. Go after his political enemies. He has also stated he wants to indict everyone who testified against him.

While in the end, no one would go to jail, but a huge part of their lives and money would be tied up in court actions, because that is the way Trump works.
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Like I said to J Grant, you accuse Trump of doing what Biden actually did.....go after his political opponents. Trump already served 4 years, who in the hell did he target or go after with his DOJ. He did not pardon himself or his family like Biden did today.

For the record, Biden knew full well of all of Hunter's dealings and crimes and these pardons today are a disgrace to the country.

If Trump is smart, he will investigate and indict all of the Biden foreign business partners, force everyone with immunity from pardons to testify (as they cant claim the 5th with the immunity they now possess) and get the full truth out for us all. If they are innocent I'll be the first to apologize.

Trump went through 2 impeachments and trials in 4 liberal jurisdictions... So who really works that way.
 
togatour said:
Like I said to J Grant, you accuse Trump of doing what Biden actually did.....go after his political opponents.
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Trumps quote about Liz Cheney - "She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

Trump crowds chanting "Lock her up" about HC in rallies.

Trump showing Mike Pence to the wolves on Jan 6th , when his ever-classy base erected a gallow with a noose because Pence obeyed the Constitution instead of Trump, - wrt going after his opponents the above is a sample of it -
 
J Grant said:
Trumps quote about Liz Cheney - "She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

Trump crowds chanting "Lock her up" about HC in rallies.

Trump showing Mike Pence to the wolves on Jan 6th , when his ever-classy base erected a gallow with a noose because Pence obeyed the Constitution instead of Trump, - wrt going after his opponents the above is a sample of it -
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Sorry, give me one example of Trump using his DOJ to go after his political opponents. Mean tweets, inappropriate comments about Liz Chaney (and I'll give you that, even though the way she went after him in the Jan 6 committee is criminal) dont justify pardoning your whole family.

Pretty sure Biden and Kamala have said things just as bad, but they say and plot behind closed doors. Didn't Biden call Peter Deucy from Fox a stupid son of a ***** on camera, hasn't Kamala had about 100 staffers quit over how she treats them. Biden had some crowds chanting to lock Trump up in the past, but Bidens crowds were so small you may have missed.

Fact #1 Biden used his DOJ against his political opponents

Fact #2 DJT did not.

Fact #3 J Grant can't change facts 1 and 2
 
J Grant said:
Trumps quote about Liz Cheney - "She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

Trump crowds chanting "Lock her up" about HC in rallies.

Trump showing Mike Pence to the wolves on Jan 6th , when his ever-classy base erected a gallow with a noose because Pence obeyed the Constitution instead of Trump, - wrt going after his opponents the above is a sample of it -
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Sorry, give me one example of Trump using his DOJ to go after his political opponents. Mean tweets, inappropriate comments about Liz Chaney (and I'll give you that, even though the way she went after him in the Jan 6 committee is criminal) dont justify pardoning your whole family.

Pretty sure Biden and Kamala have said things just as bad, but they say and plot behind closed doors. Didn't Biden call Peter Deucy from Fox a stupid son of a ***** on camera, hasn't Kamala had about 100 staffers quit over how she treats them. Biden had some crowds chanting to lock Trump up in the past, but Bidens crowds were so small you may have missed.

Fact #1 Biden used his DOJ against his political opponents

Fact #2 DJT did not.

Fact #3 J Grant can't change facts 1
 
togatour said:
Sorry, give me one example of Trump using his DOJ to go after his political opponents. Mean tweets, inappropriate comments about Liz Chaney (and I'll give you that, even though the way she went after him in the Jan 6 committee is criminal) dont justify pardoning your whole family.

Pretty sure Biden and Kamala have said things just as bad, but they say and plot behind closed doors. Didn't Biden call Peter Deucy from Fox a stupid son of a ***** on camera, hasn't Kamala had about 100 staffers quit over how she treats them. Biden had some crowds chanting to lock Trump up in the past, but Bidens crowds were so small you may have missed.

Fact #1 Biden used his DOJ against his political opponents

Fact #2 DJT did not.

Fact #3 J Grant can't change facts 1
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The
DOJ was not used by the Democrats to go after political opponents. The DOJ followed the law to prosecute as it is meant to do when people are indicted for communal activity and fraud.
 
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