Will You Get The Vaccine?

[Sadie]

I wear a mask when the law requires it and exercise common sense regarding distancing and exposure. With that being said, I grow tired of the virtue signaling mask Nazis and their never ending lectures. “Follow the science” is stated in the same vein as those old movies when “The Gods have willed it” was shouted before someone was burned at the stake or tossed in a volcano, there is no room to question their science without being shamed.

Now i understand this statistic-North Dakota Has One of the Worst COVID-19 Death Rates in U.S. (healthline.com)

 

[NachoPerito]

Now i understand this statistic-North Dakota Has One of the Worst COVID-19 Death Rates in U.S. (healthline.com)

The claim that people are "virtue signaling" means you know what is in someone's heart when they are wearing a mask. To claim they are "virtue signaling" you are claiming they have mal intentions but one doesn't know why someone is wearing a mask. It shows what is in your heart instead of theirs because your assumption that people are bad on the inside means you are a cynical person. I try not to surround myself with cynics and all that negative energy.

 

[J Grant]

Wrt to the science doubters and conspiracy theorists who ( still ) question efficacy y of masks and vaccines , and other safety measures, at least soon those who want to can get vaccinated to protect themselves, and then only the dolts will not be vaccinated, free to go on infecting each other

 

[Sadie]

The most depressing thing I have heard regarding Covid is that the world needs to be vaccinated before we are through. And quickly, while the mutations still respond to the vaccine. Getting the US to herd immunity is not going to help us much if the virus is running rampant through other countries. On the positive side, there is some NGO (name forgotten) that works with WHO to obtain vaccines for developing countries that have purchased as of Wednesday 170 million doses of the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine. Its a start.

 

[The Warrior Monk]

Ability to get the vaccine approved was 75% private companies and 25% from extradited policies at the FDA. I can appreciate their ability to see the need to extradite.

There's a very, very great incentive to develop a vaccine when the companies know that if it is developed within a year, as they will start receiving return on that investment within a year. That relatively short time frame effectively guarantees that for a novel virus, it will still be present, thus maximizing profits.

If the Fed doesn't relax the rules, the companies have far less of an incentive to develop a vaccine. The normal 4-5 year development to distribution means maximum investment up front, with minimum return in the end, because the virus will likely be a non-factor in 4-5 years, based on prior pandemics.

 

[NachoPerito]

There's a very, very great incentive to develop a vaccine when the companies know that if it is developed within a year, as they will start receiving return on that investment within a year. That relatively short time frame effectively guarantees that for a novel virus, it will still be present, thus maximizing profits.

If the Fed doesn't relax the rules, the companies have far less of an incentive to develop a vaccine. The normal 4-5 year development to distribution means maximum investment up front, with minimum return in the end, because the virus will likely be a non-factor in 4-5 years, based on prior pandemics.

4-5 years would never happen no matter who was leading our country. It would have been less than a year no matter who was president. Remember that China and Russia have vaccines already. In what world would China have a vaccine in less than a year, but the US would let 3,000 people die per day just so they could methodically go through a 4 year approval process.

 

[Dublin ohio]

Making excuses as usual, it will happen soon enough, end of Jan will get a push on federal level to help the states, from FEMA, national guard , coordination with distribution sites set up - absurd to say minority acceptance will be hindered by it, yeah keep blaming minorities for a failure at federal level the states do not have those massive resources to get vaccines avail as fast as needed

Where are you getting your information. I am just stating facts. The Tuskegee debacle has been cited by various sources as being one reason the black community does not trust vaccines. As far as using the National Guard. Who do you think controls the Guard. The states. If they do not request the Guard. The Feds cannot unilaterally deploy the Guard. Distribution sites are already in place. The vaccine is sitting in storage waiting to be used. Also, what makes you think that the new administration will have any more power over states rights. Ever wonder why Biden changed his stance from a federally mandated mask policy. To "I will work with the states on masking and make it mandatory in the only place he can. Federally controlled properties. Darn those states rights.

 

[Non Sequitur]

The biggest criticism I have is a that a warp speed research program for treatments should have been funded too.

 

[NachoPerito]

Where are you getting your information. I am just stating facts. The Tuskegee debacle has been cited by various sources as being one reason the black community does not trust vaccines. As far as using the National Guard. Who do you think controls the Guard. The states. If they do not request the Guard. The Feds cannot unilaterally deploy the Guard. Distribution sites are already in place. The vaccine is sitting in storage waiting to be used. Also, what makes you think that the new administration will have any more power over states rights. Ever wonder why Biden changed his stance from a federally mandated mask policy. To "I will work with the states on masking and make it mandatory in the only place he can. Federally controlled properties. Darn those states rights.

The federal government can help distribute the vaccine without looking like a military takeover, please.

1. The states have no money right now and they need billions to distribute the vaccine. There is no funding in the new stimulus to help states.
2. the states will once again be competing each other for resources. the federal government can help coordinate that.
3. 17 states have said they are very concerned with having insufficient supplies to administer the vaccine.
4. The federal government was offered another 100 million doses from Pfizer. They sadie no.. from July until December, now they want more, but can't have it until June or July.
5. This is a national emergency. The federal government should be paying for all distribution and implementation of the vaccine.
6. There should be a federal marketing campaign that puts the message out that the vaccine is safe. It hasn't happened.
7. There is no federal registration for vaccinations. There should be a federal registry.

You are right that the national guard is controlled by the Governors. So if they should use that resource, but don't, then it is on them. But the federal government could be doing a much better job to make sure this is happening.

 

[ucbruin]

There's a very, very great incentive to develop a vaccine when the companies know that if it is developed within a year, as they will start receiving return on that investment within a year. That relatively short time frame effectively guarantees that for a novel virus, it will still be present, thus maximizing profits.

If the Fed doesn't relax the rules, the companies have far less of an incentive to develop a vaccine. The normal 4-5 year development to distribution means maximum investment up front, with minimum return in the end, because the virus will likely be a non-factor in 4-5 years, based on prior pandemics.

Sounds as if you're pointing out that this Administration did nothing more than just stay the hell out of the way....