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[J Grant]

I always thought the issue with public schools actually rested with the parents and their culture around education.

That is true for the worst perfomring public schools and schools in poor areas ( though any student in a school can suffer from it.)

The point is, what as society will we do about it ? If two kids of roughly equal intelligence and potential grow up very differently - one in a stable home with some regard for education, the other in a chaotic home with psychological abuse or addiction issues and no regard for education - should the kid suffer for that? Of course, their performance in school will be affected.

That means we as a society if we want these disagantaged kids to do better need to make up for their lack of good parenting with additional sercived, psychological, after school sports and aivityes, possibly offer child care if it means a parent can get out an dwork.

Tht costs $. However, it might be a long-term money-saving investment, if it means fewer future criminals in our prison system - it costs about 30k a year to keep someone incarcerated. Multioly that by 20 years - 600k. It would have been better to have spent 50k when that child was younger on services for them -

 

[J Grant]

To many do.

What a load of crap. Can we stick to the main discussion? You find the one example that does not apply to 99% of the rest. Use your MAGA megaphone somewhere else please-

 

[Dublin ohio]

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Everyone would agree with your friend about hands on/involved parents....
Except Dub....

Except the teacher's union. Otherwise they wouldn't continually push for less parent input on curriculum

 

[Dublin ohio]

More rich kids go to private schools. They cuddle them even in private universities. Public kids more prepare and survive in the real world.

I went to a private grade school, high school and university. My dad was a mailman and my mom worked part time as a waitress. Not exactly what you would call rich or privileged

 

[Dublin ohio]

Palo Alto public schools and high schools have highest SAT schools and sought after if you could live in this high end town.
Parents there are doctors, lawyers, engineers, smartest people around and they are very involved in their children education.

There are always the exceptions. There are quite a few public schools in the suburban neighborhoods in my area that are high performing and most of them spend less per student than the low performing urban district

 

[Fernando]

I went to a private grade school, high school and university. My dad was a mailman and my mom worked part time as a waitress. Not exactly what you would call rich or privileged

In America, parents get to choose.
My tenant who moved to my unit because of good school district.
Before, she sent her daughter to private and her tuition was subsidized by the parochial school for low income people.

 

[Dublin ohio]

That means we as a society if we want these disagantaged kids to do better need to make up for their lack of good parenting with additional sercived, psychological, after school sports and aivityes, possibly offer child care if it means a parent can get out an dwork.

Where have you been. Urban districts have devoted more time and effort into the exact things you mentioned with limited results. There will never be enough money to give every student a personalized program like you describe. In some districts you would be talking about thousands of students

 

[ucbruin]

I went to a private grade school, high school and university. My dad was a mailman and my mom worked part time as a waitress. Not exactly what you would call rich or privileged

No wonder you go postal every so often....
Just messing with you....

What an interesting coinkidink....
My dad was a mailman too....
And my mom was a bank teller....

Walk or drive the route....
Mail bag or push cart....
Baseball cap or pith helmet or no head covering....

 

[Dublin ohio]

In America, parents get to choose.
My tenant who moved to my unit because of good school district.
Before, she sent her daughter to private and her tuition was subsidized by the parochial school for low income people.

What does that have to do with your assessment that only the rich or privileged can go to private schools

 

[cpursley]

In America, parents get to choose.

Ones with $$$ do. Rest are screwed.

I like how Denmark does it - gov't stipend follows the kid and parent gets to choose (they've got schools with specific focuses that kids might be interested in).