Hurricane Helena devastation in NC!

[residentialguy]

Climate change means any area is vulnerable - water levels rise and lakes and rivers flood with warmer temperatures and that is what happened up in the mountains of NC. Wind damage pierces a roof, and roofs not strapped with Hurricane straps fly off, and the house gets flooded. For the anti-regulation folks, there is a reason for building codes - I'm just saying. Many of the homes in remote rural areas are older and not built to code and not built to withstand a flood.

It's a thousand year flood zone. This is not climate change. It happens every +/- thousand years. A brand new fully regulated to code house would not survive this kind of water. The water going over the dam was twice the volume of the water going over niagara falls. This kind of force annihilates everything it touches. Code smode

 

[J Grant]

It's a thousand year flood zone. This is not climate change. It happens every +/- thousand years. A brand new fully regulated to code house would not survive this kind of water. The water going over the dam was twice the volume of the water going over niagara falls. This kind of force annihilates everything it touches. Code smode

Please read more about climate change. Nobody can definitively say, of course; however, what is happening in real time with more frequent and more intense weather events happening in places where they rarely or never happen is in line with decades of predictions and modeling of how climate change will affect us.
Warmer ocean waters strengthen storms, and rising sea levels can reach interior canals and rivers. Despite our resident climate change denier Terrel who will point out that yes, we still have cold snaps and yes, the earth has always experienced storms .(both of which he might be surprised to learn that climatologists and scientists are well aware of )

A satellite Image of Robert Island on the Antarctic Peninsula showing vegetation.
Tom Roland
CNN —
Parts of icy Antarctica are turning green with plant life at an alarming rate as the region is gripped by extreme heat events, according to new research, sparking concerns about the changing landscape on this vast continent.

Scientists used satellite imagery and data to analyze vegetation levels on the Antarctic Peninsula, a long mountain chain that points north to the tip of South America, and which has been warming much faster than the global average.

They found plant life — mostly mosses — had increased in this harsh environment more than 10-fold over the past four decades, according to the study by scientists at the universities of Exeter and Hertfordshire in England, and the British Antarctic Survey, published Friday in the journal Nature Geoscience.



Vegetation covered less than 0.4 square miles of the Antarctic Peninsula in 1986 but had reached almost 5 square miles by 2021, the study found. The rate at which the region has been greening over nearly four decades has also been speeding up, accelerating by more than 30% between 2016 and 2021.

 

[Carnivore]

If the power companies can be ready the day after with a small army of lineman. No reason the military or the National Guard not to have the same state of readiness.

you would not have made that statement above If you had a clue on how the NG and military are structured for readiness.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Climate change means any area is vulnerable

Has absolutely nothing to do with it. This scale of flood occurred in NC in 2004 and in the 1920s. The UN publishes the IPCC (International Panel on Climate Change) report every 5 years and to this date they have drawn the conclusion that there is absolutely ZERO evidence that hurricanes are stronger. And some of us remember when Hurricane Donna struck up in Pennsylvania many, many years ago. Stop lying. When Dr. Trenbreth SPECULATED that there should be some connection in the early 2000s, Dr. Chris Landsea-arguably the most distinguished hurricane expert in America- resigned from the IPCC report and blasted Trenbreth. Trenbreth didn't make that mistake the next IPCC report.

The astute CNN reader like you is constantly assured everything is caused by climate change - from floods to acne and crabgrass. It's all BS without a shred of science behind it. We actually have fewer days over 100 degrees than in the past. Crops, instead of diminishing, are increasing. Arctic sea ice has not changed from the average since 2008. On and on.

 

[residentialguy]

Jg making sure that a good disaster doesn't go to waste

 

[J Grant]

Has absolutely nothing to do with it. This scale of flood occurred in NC in 2004 and in the 1920s. The UN publishes the IPCC (International Panel on Climate Change) report every 5 years and to this date they have drawn the conclusion that there is absolutely ZERO evidence that hurricanes are stronger. And some of us remember when Hurricane Donna struck up in Pennsylvania many, many years ago. Stop lying. When Dr. Trenbreth SPECULATED that there should be some connection in the early 2000s, Dr. Chris Landsea-arguably the most distinguished hurricane expert in America- resigned from the IPCC report and blasted Trenbreth. Trenbreth didn't make that mistake the next IPCC report.

The astute CNN reader like you is constantly assured everything is caused by climate change - from floods to acne and crabgrass. It's all BS without a shred of science behind it. We actually have fewer days over 100 degrees than in the past. Crops, instead of diminishing, are increasing. Arctic sea ice has not changed from the average since 2008. On and on.
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You are thankfully in the minority of viewpoints on it, but who cares sta mired in denial (I wish I could be ). I will take the evidence of the pattern of accelerating real-time storms and extreme weather and the findings of climatologists, scientists, NASA, and the Department of Defense over your tired and outdated arguments.

 

[J Grant]

Jg making sure that a good disaster doesn't go to waste

Please do some research into climate change and get back to me on it. Or, if you prefer, stay in the cozy world of denial - I would rather be there myself- a lot nicer place to be - but our next generation future rides on what we do now and in the coming years.

 

[Charles West]

We are about due for a major rain event here in the Sacramento area, due to the confluence of two significant rivers. Sacramento is at the greatest risk of flooding in a metropolitan area in the whole country.

 

[J Grant]

I have lived in NC my entire life, mostly in the piedmont but also on the coast, and have visited and camped out in the mountains. Forty years ago by early October leaves would be changing and would peak by the 15th. I look out my window as I write this and it's green everywhere. There is barely a red leaf to be seen even on the dogwoods. You have to be blind or stupid to deny that weather is changing. Bad leaders come and go but climate change destroys civilization and causes mass extinctions. One political party recognizes this and one party denies this. That alone is a sufficient reason to consign the republican party to the ash heap.

Above post from the BB of a site where many different people comment-- from a longtime NC resident

 

[Dublin ohio]

you would not have made that statement above If you had a clue on how the NG and military are structured for readiness.

I realize they can't deploy at a moments notice and I am not blaming them directly. But I would think that the powers that be could have anticipated a little more. Just like the power companies do