USPAP class for the thirteenth time

[Mile High Trout]

If your state govt is acting contrary to its own laws then that error is occurring at the state govt level and has zero to do with TAF. Or USPAP, which itself includes an exception rule which is applicable if/when there's a conflict between a law or regs vs USPAP. USPAP is not law and it is always subordinate to the law in the event of a conflict.

This is all basic, and if you were more familiar with the content then you wouldn't be erroneously attributing to TAF and USPAP the complaint that you are making about what amounts to your state's conduct WRT their own laws.

False. I'd think you of all people would understand such basic concepts better.

(per bold quote) Except when they refuse to allow CE providers to provide class only cost basis to citizen appraisers in states where administrative procedural laws contradict their own non negotiable participation mandates for providers.

EVERYONE HAS TO BUY THE BOOK. EVERY SINGLE TIME. NO EXCEPTIONS.

You'll never get around this basic fact.

 

[Mile High Trout]

If not safe, FDA would not allow these vaccines. Americans decide if they want to take it or not.
Why just picking on Covid vaccine and not other vaccines or drugs?

Wow this person really does not understand institutional corruption. He exists inside the propaganda.

 

[George Hatch]

False. I'd think you of all people would understand such basic concepts better.

(per bold quote) Except when they refuse to allow CE providers to provide class only cost basis to citizen appraisers in states where administrative procedural laws contradict their own non negotiable participation mandates for providers.

EVERYONE HAS TO BUY THE BOOK. EVERY SINGLE TIME. NO EXCEPTIONS.

You'll never get around this basic fact.

Your state could buy the books if they don't want students to pay for them out of pocket. Then extract the costs from their licensees in their license fees. Either way, you're still complaining about the conduct of your state which is specific to your state. And which still has nothing to do with TAF.

The requirement of the course, which your state needs its appraisers to take in order for those appraisals to be usable at the federal level, is for students to have all of the current materials on hand. Your state's choices are to either find a way to comply on their end or else see some or all of their appraisers being deemed unqualified to participate in those assignments, with the high liklihood or the GSEs and VA/FHA and the others following suit.

Just say no" is not an alternative that will work for you as an individual or for your state's entire licensing programs and your state's appraisers. If your state has created a problem for themselves then they are the only party which can un-problem their way out of that situation.

Do you want to win or not?

 

[Mejappz]

False. I'd think you of all people would understand such basic concepts better.

(per bold quote) Except when they refuse to allow CE providers to provide class only cost basis to citizen appraisers in states where administrative procedural laws contradict their own non negotiable participation mandates for providers.

EVERYONE HAS TO BUY THE BOOK. EVERY SINGLE TIME. NO EXCEPTIONS.

You'll never get around this basic fact.

Yep, no doubt. People are starting to wake up to this money-making scam that's crippling the industry. I'm taking this crap right now and was able to save some money based on your suggestion.

 

[Mile High Trout]

Your state could buy the books if they don't want students to pay for them out of pocket. Then extract the costs from their licensees in their license fees. Either way, you're still complaining about the conduct of your state which is specific to your state. And which still has nothing to do with TAF.

Incorrect logic. Non logic in fact.

The state implemented rules mandating compliance with TAF terms, which included the USPAP bi annual class, AND approving the CE providers classes whom MANDATE USPAP book purchases, all the while IGNORING the states own administrative procedural rules.

Who the hell is the 'administrator' here?

Further more can one call TAF competent if they mandate systems that are known to be in violation of many many states administrative procedural rules?

Who's steering this ship?

 

[Mile High Trout]

Yep, no doubt. People are starting to wake up to this money-making scam that's crippling the industry. I'm taking this crap right now and was able to save some money based on your suggestion.

Thanks. Was surfing for discount classes and to my surprise, not many were available. At first it seemed like none. Calypso is among the last independent efforts not tied to larger entities. Most have been consolidated and bought out over the years. I know because I've kept amazing bookmarks in FF Mozilla as one can have thousands without effective limit, well organized too. I was getting redirect after redirect, hardly any of them worked.

So I wrote many letters to the CE providers asking them why they are forcing book sales, when this mandate is contrary to many states administrative procedural laws, and other important topic matters. NONE bothered to respond with fair or reasonable answers, except they all fell back on this standard line; TAF requires a book sale with each individual class purchased, and that portion of the class costs goes directly to TAF, which is why they can not offer similar discounts on USPAP as other classes.

TAF has mandated all companies offering the USPAP class MUST PAY a class fee to issue the class. Mr Hatch, that's the other side of the story, FYI.

 

[George Hatch]

The feds imposed these requirements on the states as a matter of law. There's your smoking gun. Either the feds have the authority to dictate these terms to the states or they don't. If you don't think the feds have that authority then that's who you need to sue. Or, you can hope that Elon will deregulate the feds out of the appraisal business altogether and then we'll see how the lenders react when they get cut loose to tell you how they REALLY don't need you.

Unless Elon intervenes, the states' existing choice is to either comply or not comply, the latter triggering the nukular option of the ASC decertifying the entire licensing program for that state, rendering those licensees unqualified to perform appraisals for use in these various programs. There's your instant retirement program, if you feel so inclined. You used to hold an active appraisal license, but not no more.

Matter of fact, you don't even need to prompt your state to tell the feds to GFY. You can do that on your own behalf all by yourself.

 

[Mile High Trout]

The feds imposed these requirements on the states. The states' choice is to either comply or not comply, the latter triggering the nukular option of decertifying the entire licensing program for that state, rendering those licensees unqualified to perform appraisals for use in these various programs.

Indeed. Also added another tidbit above; TAF circumvented the state by requiring the book sale through the CE providers, which the state approved.

The integration is the problem. Appraisers should be able to self certify they have access to the book.

But then the inflated cost infinite recurring USPAP book sale racket would be over.

 

[George Hatch]

Indeed. Also added another tidbit above; TAF circumvented the state by requiring the book sale through the CE providers, which the state approved.

The integration is the problem. Appraisers should be able to self certify they have access to the book.

But then the inflated cost infinite recurring USPAP book sale racket would be over.

Okay. Whatever.

Your state could still work a deal with the CE providers if they wanted, or even approach TAF on the prospect. Have you tried asking your state to fix the glitch in their Matrix yet? After all, they're the ones who got themselves to the point where their policies are making you unhappy.

 

[Fernando]

big pharm telling americans the vax is safe and effective 13 million times is consistent too...eh, fernado?...and the boosters are the update class

Can't complain now that USPAP is only every two years. No, I rather take the shot than endure 7 hours of USPAP.